Go Back   IceInSpace > Images > Deep Space
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 31-07-2009, 09:20 PM
TrevorW
Registered User

TrevorW is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 8,280
The Swan Nebula

Target: M17 Swan Nebula
Camera: Canon 350d modified, WO F2 FR, Baader 2” Skyglow filter
Exposure Capture: DLSR Focus
Scope: GSO CF RC200
EFR: f/6
Mount: EQ6 Pro
Exposure Setting: Prime focus, ISO800 ICNR off Daylight WB
Exposures: 10 X180s, 7 x 480s taken 30/07/2009
Seeing: waxing gibbous 70% moon
Guiding: Orion Starshoot Autoguider using PHD with ED80
Focus: DSLR Focus
Stacking: DSS equal darks plus flats, no bias applied
Processing: CS3

Note: Collimation is still not 100% and eggy stars at edges may be due to rotation and not focuser sag as recently replaced the stock focuser with a Moonlite
Messier 17 Starforming Nebula M17 (NGC 6618), an emission nebula, with Open Star Cluster, in Sagittarius AKA Omega, Swan, Horseshoe, or Lobster Nebula

Right Ascension
18 : 20.8 (h:m)
Declination
-16 : 11 (deg:m)
Distance
5.0 (kly)
Visual Brightness
6.0 (mag)
Apparent Dimension
11.0 (arc min)
Discovered by Philippe Loys de Chéseaux in 1745-46.
The Omega Nebula Messier 17 (M17, NGC 6618), also called the Swan Nebula, the Horseshoe Nebula, or (especially on the southern hemisphere) the Lobster Nebula, is a region of star formation and shines by excited emission, caused by the higher energy radiation of young stars. Unlike in many other emission nebulae, however, these stars are not obvious in optical images, but hidden in the nebula. Star formation is either still active in this nebula, or ceased very recently. A small cluster of about 35 bright but obscured stars seems to be imbedded in the nebulosity.
This object was discovered by Philippe Loys de Chéseaux and is one of only six "nebulae properly so called" in his catalogue. De Chéseaux's discovery didn't get widely known, thus Charles Messier independently rediscovered it and catalogued it on June 3, 1764.
The colour of the Omega Nebula is reddish, with some graduation to pink. This colour comes from the hot hydrogen gas which is excited to shine by the hottest stars which have just formed within the nebula. However, the brightest region is actually of white colour, not overexposed as one might think. This phenomenon is apparently a result of a mixture of emission light from the hottest gas, together with reflections of the bright star light from the dust in this region. The nebula contains a large amount of dark obscuring material, which is obvious in its remarkable features. This matter has been heated by the hidden young stars, and shines brightly in infrared light.
The mass of the gas has been estimated to amount about 800 times that of the Sun, enough for forming a conspicuous cluster, and a good deal more than that of the Orion nebula M42. While the bright nebula seems to be roughly 15 light years in extension, the total gaseous cloud, including low-luminosity material, seems to extend to at least 40 light years. Distance estimates are spread over a wide range, but modern values are between 5,000 and 6,000 light years, thus little less than that of its apparent neighbour, M16 with the Eagle nebula - apparently, these two star forming regions are indeed close together, in the same spiral arm (the Sagittarius or Sagittarius-Carina arm) of the Milky Way galaxy, and perhaps part of the same giant complex of cosmic clouds of interstellar matter.
As for many diffuse nebulae, the overall brightness of this object is difficult to estimate, and is given discordantly in the sources. While older sources give estimates around 7.0 magnitudes, probably because these were performed at northern observatories, modern compilations list its visual magnitude brighter: Don Machholz lists it at 6.6 mag, the Sky Catalogue 2000.0 at 5.0 mag, and the Deep Sky Field Guide to Uranometria 2000.0 gives a value of 6.0 mag (which we adopt here); anyway, it is visible to the naked eye under good observing conditions from not too northern geographic latitudes!
The Omega or Swan Nebula M17 can be found quite easily, and similar and simultaneously to its apparent neighbour, M16. The first way to find it is locating the white giant star Gamma Scuti, of magnitude 4.70 and spectral type A2 III, e.g. from Altair (Alpha Aquilae) via Delta and Lambda Aql; M16 is slightly more than 2 degrees to the southwest of this star. Alternatively, in particular with a pair of binoculars, locate star cloud M24 and move northward via a pair of stars of 6th and 7th mag in the north-eastern edge of M24, followed by small open cluster M18 1deg north, and M17 another 1deg to the north
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (m17 swan nebula iis.jpg)
147.4 KB69 views

Last edited by TrevorW; 31-07-2009 at 09:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-08-2009, 12:15 AM
CoolhandJo's Avatar
CoolhandJo (Paul)
Registered User

CoolhandJo is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,809
A comprehensive post that's for sure! Ilike the image becuase it has a fullness to it. Depth I think from the different exposure times?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-08-2009, 09:15 AM
Hagar (Doug)
Registered User

Hagar is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 4,646
Nice image Trevor and what a pre amble and info page.

Well done. Focus looks better and the detail is great.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-08-2009, 10:15 AM
TrevorW
Registered User

TrevorW is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 8,280
Thanks Dr Paul and Dougie

I've attached another rendition

Cheers
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (m17 swan nebula iis.jpg)
198.3 KB26 views
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-08-2009, 10:38 AM
peeb61's Avatar
peeb61 (Paul)
Always looking up

peeb61 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 730
Nice image Trevor,
Plenty of detail and nice colour, the white 'backbone' certainly stands out.

Paul
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-08-2009, 10:50 AM
sjastro's Avatar
sjastro
Registered User

sjastro is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,926
Good image Trevor.

Steven
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-08-2009, 04:11 PM
TrevorW
Registered User

TrevorW is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 8,280
Thanks Paul and Steven
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-08-2009, 04:21 PM
renormalised's Avatar
renormalised (Carl)
No More Infinities

renormalised is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Townsville
Posts: 9,698
Smile

Nice piccie, lots of info!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-08-2009, 04:25 PM
kinetic's Avatar
kinetic (Steve)
ATMer and Saganist

kinetic is offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Adelaide S.A.
Posts: 2,293
Nice result Trevor,

Thanks for the text definition too...a great read.
The poor frenchman really got shafted over the discovery eh

Steve
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-08-2009, 07:31 PM
Astrobserver99's Avatar
Astrobserver99 (Rob)
Starlit Night

Astrobserver99 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bellarine Peninsula, Victoria
Posts: 505
Nice photo Trevor. Lots of detail
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-08-2009, 03:10 PM
TrevorW
Registered User

TrevorW is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 8,280
Thanks Carl, Steve and Rob

I think I've now fixed my collimatiom problem
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 05:18 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement