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Old 06-09-2009, 09:21 PM
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Altitude/azmith graduations for DOBS ?

Is there any altitude and azimuth graduations ready made of the shelf to fix to a Dob's base. I'm planing to make some up but thought that I'd better ask this mighty forum as someone might have already sorted this out.

I'm thinking that this would be a useful mod. I have been trying to locate Neptune and this might make it a bit easier, (a cheap go to, sort of).
Mind you a full moon near by does make it very hard, probably impossible, but it's fun trying.

Richard
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:29 PM
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Richard,

A quick way to graduate a large circle is to use an old tape
measure blade.

Wrap it around your base circle for example and read off degrees
at the appropriate intervals.

Obviously if you have access to a few power tools you can do
an even better job. IE cut an exact circumference disk to
match, say, the tape measure blade with 360mm...gives you
nice 1 degree accuracy.....720mm gives you half degree accuracy etc.

Same for the Alt bearing. You could attach a similar disk to the hub
and read off sub-degree alt measurements...

My first GEM setting circles were made this way.

Steve
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:41 PM
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You most likely wont find an off the shelf option for azimuth but altitude can be done using digital angle finder.

This thread on Cloudynights has the pdf files (for azimuth degree circles) and pictures etc that will answer any questions you will likely have..

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea.../o/all/fpart/1
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:55 PM
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Thanks again JethroB76 for the link, will check it out.
Hi steve, I was planing to draw up the graduations on Cad and have someone print them up for me full size on some plastic. Anyway I will check out whats around first, like the link that Jethro B76 has supplied.

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Old 06-09-2009, 10:27 PM
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You have it here:

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/63-434-0-0-1-0.html

I made mine for 12" dob. At the end of the page you can download the picture and resize it for your need, print it, cut out pieces, join them together, fun stuff

For Alt. I simply bought digital thingy (whats it name)from Bunnings for $20
dollars.

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Old 06-09-2009, 10:33 PM
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This may also be very helpful:
http://www.startrak.co.uk/MakingSettingCircles.htm
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:08 PM
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Thanks all, I knew I didn't have to reinvent the wheel.
Haven't read everything as yet, got another thread at the moment and family duties which come first. Been to and fro for the last hour.

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Old 07-09-2009, 07:46 PM
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This is my rendition.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3310/...b13e5d6c_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3384/...c5fcd477_b.jpg

It was made or put on a sticker and physically stuck to the lower side of the base/bearing.
Cut a hole/slot in the top part of the base to look.
I am yet to put a laser/LED pointer on it yet.

Care of http://settingcircles.robertwillett.com:8000/

It is a bit technical, if you are that way inclined, as I had issues of printing it out on A4 (it comes in a huge paper size PDF/TIFF).
But I also had to turn the numbers around 180 degrees (I think by memory), as I wanted to view the numbers from the EP area, not lift head from EP, turn head 90 degrees to right too look at the numbers.
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Old 07-09-2009, 08:44 PM
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You have it here:

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/63-434-0-0-1-0.html

I made mine for 12" dob. At the end of the page you can download the picture and resize it for your need, print it, cut out pieces, join them together, fun stuff

For Alt. I simply bought digital thingy (whats it name)from Bunnings for $20
dollars.

bob
That would be an inclinometer Bob!

I bought one from the UK on ebay and it works a treat, magnetic base etc, never leaves the tube...Wixey was the brand.

Cheers

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Old 07-09-2009, 11:01 PM
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Thanks Chris,

Yes, thats the one, I couldn't remember the name... I am getting old mate
Works very good, much better choice than making the 90 degrees dials on the trunnions.



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Old 07-09-2009, 11:13 PM
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Inclinometer, also known as a wankclinometer when introduced as a must have accessory to some off road vehicles. A useful tool to indicate at what angle the car will tip over. Use it once and throw it away with the car.

Actually had a quick look at bunnings today but did not find any, I'll ask tomorrow.

Nice rendition, Brett.

Thanks
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:32 PM
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Richard,

When I went to Bunnings and asked for one they didn't know what I want, and yes I knew the name back then
They just said no, we don't have anything like that.

Anyway, I was just browsing around tools section and saw it there. I told them, this is what I want, Oh the guy said, why didn't you say you want it for angle cutting with circular saw? 'Cos its magnetic he says and you just attach it to circular saw to make any angle you want to cut.

Looks like not many astronomers work for Bunnings

bob

Here is the pic, its called Digital Angle Guage
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Old 08-09-2009, 07:35 AM
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This is my rendition.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3310/...b13e5d6c_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3384/...c5fcd477_b.jpg

It was made or put on a sticker and physically stuck to the lower side of the base/bearing.
Cut a hole/slot in the top part of the base to look.
I am yet to put a laser/LED pointer on it yet.

Care of http://settingcircles.robertwillett.com:8000/

It is a bit technical, if you are that way inclined, as I had issues of printing it out on A4 (it comes in a huge paper size PDF/TIFF).
But I also had to turn the numbers around 180 degrees (I think by memory), as I wanted to view the numbers from the EP area, not lift head from EP, turn head 90 degrees to right too look at the numbers.


Brett, How did you turn the numbers around 180 degrees?
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:33 PM
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Bob, you must have got the last one from bunnings.
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:49 PM
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Bob, you must have got the last one from bunnings.
Try "special orders", they will need its brand atleast.

I don't think you will find that line in many stores... I haven't seen it come into my store, i've been there 8 years.
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Looks like not many astronomers work for Bunnings
Hi, I'm Mitchell and I work for Bunnings... Nice to meet you
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Old 09-09-2009, 11:13 PM
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Mitchell,

Nice to meet you too mate!

I found this info about angle gauge on woodwork forum, the guy claims he bought it from Bannings:

Digital Angle Gauge craftright
4711414131292
PROTRACTOR-DIGITAL CRAFTR
ANGLE GAUGE LCD AX-007


Richard,

If you are still looking for one, apparently much better quality (Wixey) you can get it from ebay:

http://shop.ebay.com.au/items/_W0QQ_...&tt_encode=raw

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Old 09-09-2009, 11:35 PM
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Hi Mitchell.

Apparently bunnings only had a few and has not continued with them. Bunnings has got an analog dial but these are harder to read, as per Bob's ref. link.

Bob, I also came across the Wixley on ebay. Will consider this, but I'm in no hurry.

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Old 10-09-2009, 12:09 AM
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The wixey works pretty well, I got mine from the UK a couple years ago now. I have found that it will go to sleep after a few hours in very cold conditions, but other than that it works fine
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:22 AM
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i made mine similiar to yours, i got the larger print and smaller print #'s ( i used the larger)- i used a shim and larger center bolt, then laid the paper on the lower base and covered it it plexiglass (cut it with a die-grinder)- then notched out the upper base and installed a pointer-- i used a wall clock hour hand arrow for that attached to a magnet, screwed a little metal plate on the base to hold to pointer in place, worked fine, i didnt worry about the ALT to much
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