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Old 27-03-2009, 06:57 PM
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IC4406 Retina Nebula in NB

Well, you try, sometimes it doesnt come out quite as planed .

Its a tiny little bugger, but bright. Its the only object Ive ever processed that you have to do negative curves to extract detail .

Try as I may, detail is pretty awefull, but then again I cant find any other pics that get even close to the Hubble pic, which is probably why its hard to find anything else on the net other than the Hubble pic, its just too hard .

Taken on a LX200R/G11/ST10/NB filters.
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Old 27-03-2009, 07:11 PM
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Its a tiny little bugger, but bright.
Two words: Adaptive Optics.

Commendable very narrow field effort
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Old 27-03-2009, 07:27 PM
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Hehe, thanks Peter, screwed up the close up size, fixed now. Well, yes, should have bolted on the A07, but sooo, much bother (and no really bright stars). I had a poke in Dark skies with my GRAS scope, no diff, suspect any thing on earth would have trouble, but, mmmmmmmm A08?, would be interesting.
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Old 27-03-2009, 07:36 PM
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...... A08?, would be interesting.......
This may surprise many of our ISS viewers, but the AO7 under DOS (DOS what's DOS??!!) with an TC211 guide chip was the fastest off the shelf AO produced. It could push 30Hz no problem.

But it was a difficult beastie to use well....hence more sedate refractive optics were introduced into the AO8...and the AOL I now use.

They really do work. But I miss the normally aspirated Ferrari without the catalytic converter

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Old 27-03-2009, 08:42 PM
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I've found AO7 to be difficult to use... however the results are good.. (and its HEAVY?!) I am currently saving towards USB electronics upgrade + AO-8 for my ST9E....

Good effort Fred.... Takes guts to chase such small objects from earth... Your result, whilst it lacks the intense detail of the hubble image, it is still a very commendable image....
On that note, Well done..

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Old 29-03-2009, 12:49 AM
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A great capture of a very interesting DSO.

I think you've done a great job Fred.

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Old 29-03-2009, 07:02 PM
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Thanks Alex, Ric. Yes, its an interesting planetary, there are so many out there Id love to image, and quite bright.

Alex, an A08 and ST9 would be a killer combo for mega narrow field, I like the way your heading, a very nice change after the same top 10 wide field monsters over and over.. Peter makes an interesting point on the speed of the A07, but sometimes convienence dictates the bother of even trying, I too find the A07 difficult, so it sits on the shelf.
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Old 29-03-2009, 07:08 PM
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just great to see amateurs chasing more unusual and therefore more difficult targets

Now can I convince you to please give NGC 3314 a go ?
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Old 29-03-2009, 07:26 PM
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That's quite nice Fred

At first I thought it was just a grasshooper squashed on a windscreen but the narrower field zoom in made it clear, it is obviously a locust

Small object, even for the narrow field consumed fanatics but you have revealed some nice detail

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Old 29-03-2009, 07:28 PM
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just great to see amateurs chasing more unusual and therefore more difficult targets

Now can I convince you to please give NGC 3314 a go ?
Yes, most certainly Squire, love to, but I can only image east of the pole. Its on the list when it comes round, thanks for the tip.
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Old 29-03-2009, 07:33 PM
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That's quite nice Fred

At first I thought it was just a grasshooper squashed on a windscreen but the narrower field zoom in made it clear, it is obviously a locust

Small object, even for the narrow field consumed fanatics but you have revealed some nice detail

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hehe, Thanks Mike, but what detail , thats the killer, no detail .

I find guiding for detail on small mungrels must easier near the pole, so a search is required, NGC3314 is definitly on the list.
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Old 29-03-2009, 08:06 PM
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I don't think I've seen this object before, what an intriguing object.

Well captured!
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Old 29-03-2009, 08:13 PM
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Very interesting object, Fred! The detail in the centre looks great to me. Any plans for more data?

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Old 29-03-2009, 08:39 PM
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Thanks Andrew, Al, Well, I dont know if more data will help on this, deconvolute and sharpen on smooth (read blured) data just creates artifacts, not that artifacts cant look smick, been there .

Suspect that kind of creative input wont work for long tho
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Old 30-03-2009, 12:30 PM
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Nice image Fred. I like the one in the middle the best although there is some noise left in it

A very interesting object and nice bright almost iridescent colours.

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Old 30-03-2009, 04:14 PM
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Cool. Very unusual shape.
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Old 30-03-2009, 04:59 PM
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Great effort there Fred.
Pulled some nice detail... and colour to boot!
Looks good to me.

Quite taxing on equipment getting up close and personal... some folks don't realise just how hard it can be, .. back in the days of using F9 & F12 scopes with .25 Mp chips..... man you certainly got to know how good or bad the PE was in your mount!!
And then it comes down to seeing/ transparency on top of that... if that's not so good..... give up!

Top stuff I say!

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