Astronomy and religion on Catalyst

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #1 14-08-2005, 11:17 PM

Did anyone happen to watch Catalyst tonight? I managed to catch a little bit of it while putting all the leads back in the VCR, DVD player, Set top box etc etc that darling hubby had unplugged for some obscure reason. ( pardon me, but I had to complain to someone)
It was about reconciling Science/Astronomy with religion. I think they showed the Vatican observatory, and also one sponsored by the church in Arizona.
If you did watch, what are your views on this subject. Can you have faith in god and Science at the same time?

ballaratdragons (Ken) · #2 15-08-2005, 12:27 AM

I watched some of it! It was Compass, not Catalyst. Sorry to correct you.

It had some very interesting info.

God & Science together? I believe so. But that's me!

astroron (Ron) · #3 15-08-2005, 12:35 AM

Did anybody record it on VCR? I was only able to see bits of it due to poor ABC reception, if so I would like a copy or borrow it, I would pay the Postage. Regards astroron

gaa_ian (Ian) · #4 15-08-2005, 12:38 AM

Sounds very interesting ... to me, the 2 are not mutually exclusive.
To quote a fellow Iceinspacer "Orion" ..... "The heavens declare the glory of god"
Each time I look up & the more science I learn, the more I think, what a fabulous design.
To Imagine that it is all by chance & goverened by "Chaos" theory, to me takes a greater leap of faith, than to believe that the universe is an maifestation of an intelligent will.
In the beginning god said "let there be light" .... now if that does not describe the time soon after the "Big Bang", I don't know what does

My 2 cents worth

RAJAH235 · #5 15-08-2005, 07:27 PM

I especially liked the part where he was looking at the 2 X 8 metre mirrors being made. One being heat treated/formed in the rotating furnace. The other already polished & waiting for aluminising. They're going to 'BINOCULARISE' them!!! Is that a word?
Worlds biggest Bino.t'scope... WOW.
I agree with his views, that the church at that time, did the wrong thing with Gallileo.

L.

Adelain · #6 15-08-2005, 07:46 PM

Did you see the bit where the guy asked the question (would there be beings a billion or so years ahead of us?) Would they be god ? God's ? To us ? Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Orion · #7 15-08-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjnettie

Can you have faith in god and Science at the same time?

I hope they put this show on again because I missed it.

I know there are subjects that here in IIS we are not allowed to talk about one being about religion but to answer your question, I read the bible every day and it amazes me how many things I find in it that science proves. In my opinion you can believe and trust in God and science is but a tool to be used for good not evil.

I understand if this post is deleted by the moderators.

ballaratdragons (Ken) · #8 15-08-2005, 08:10 PM

I hope they don't delete it Ed. The Bible predicts it and Science proves it!

Hand in hand.

Orion · #9 15-08-2005, 08:12 PM

Thankyou..Ken.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #10 15-08-2005, 10:44 PM

Thank you all for your replies. I hope to watch the show again on ABC2 sometime this week.
Apologies for mixing up program names.
I guess I'll have to read up on my posting rules again. Didn't realise that I might be starting a thread on a taboo topic. But the program was definately very interesting regardless of what beliefs you hold.

gaa_ian (Ian) · #11 15-08-2005, 11:08 PM

Good on you jjjnettie ...
I think this is an Important topic ... and probably one of the things that draws many people into astronomy ...
Is there more , where do I/we fit into the Universe & why does the number 42 keep coming up

iceman (Mike) · #12 15-08-2005, 11:15 PM

I'm not going to delete it, there's no need to right now, but the rules are there because people ahve different beliefs and threads like this have the potential to get quite inflamed as people get heated about sharing those beliefs.

As long as it stays in this calm nature feel free to continue the discussion

cahullian · #13 16-08-2005, 12:29 AM

Mike you should make guidelines and stick to them. To be fair on others who have had threads deleted in the past.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #14 16-08-2005, 12:46 AM

I only hoped to provoke thoughtful, not thoughtless discussion. Having no particular religous beliefs, I thought I'd like to learn what others thought of this Compass program.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #15 16-08-2005, 12:47 AM

Did I really write Thought, that many times in only 2 sentences?
4 times in 2 sentences
42.................

iceman (Mike) · #16 16-08-2005, 12:48 AM

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Mike you should make guidelines and stick to them. To be fair on others who have had threads deleted in the past

Fair point Gazz, however there have been no previous threads on religious discussions deleted.

If this thread starts to turn nasty it will get locked quickly.

cahullian · #17 16-08-2005, 12:55 AM

I could be nasty and turn it myself...ever since I was excommunicated religion has no place in my life. I on the other hand think the show would be worth a squiz.
BTW Mike I didn't mention religion

Just the guidlines should be adhered to.

iceman (Mike) · #18 16-08-2005, 01:06 AM

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BTW Mike I didn't mention religion

I know you didn't, but I was being specific rather than general.

Quote:

Just the guidlines should be adhered to.

Yes, in general the guidelines should be adhered to, and in general they are.

cahullian · #19 16-08-2005, 01:08 AM

Don't mind me mate
I'm just bored and stirring
Me very bad man
If it wasn't so cloudy I would be out viewing

iceman (Mike) · #20 16-08-2005, 01:09 AM

I know you are Gazz, 'tis all good