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Old 19-08-2008, 06:28 PM
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NGC253 Sculptor Galaxy in LRGB

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NGC253 Sculptor Galaxy in LRGB
LRGB all 5min subs, L 9hrs bin1: RGB 110min ea bin2
Taken on a Meade 12" LX200R OTA, G11, ST10XME, at f6.7

Usual big star trouble, I give up on them.
Might be a bit prurple, mmm.

Some nice detail came out on the dust lanes, happy with that.

LRGB sure gets data quick, blooming on anything over 5 min subs, bit of a change .

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Old 19-08-2008, 06:39 PM
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no GRAS here. well done fred beautiful galaxy. maybe slighttlyy purplish...
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Old 19-08-2008, 06:55 PM
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Excellent image Fred ... really a superb capture. I am not experienced enough to offer any technical comment, so can only comment from the visual point of view. So glad also that there is a new thread to look at, the last one was OK for awhile but Im afraid Im over it.

Hope I can point my scope at this object at some time and come close to this effort.
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Old 19-08-2008, 07:08 PM
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Great image Fred...just stunning!
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Old 19-08-2008, 07:33 PM
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Hey Fred,

Lovely image mate!!!, one of my Fav's NGC253

Wow! man that's some funky **** you have done on your site. When I
scrolled down I realised I have your M8 image as my desktop lol, hope
you didn't mind.

Thanks for posting : )

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Old 19-08-2008, 07:53 PM
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no GRAS here. well done fred beautiful galaxy. maybe slighttlyy purplish...
Thanks Eric, purple:I wonder what it really looks like . Jases NGC253 is bluer (and most others), sigh, it just looked astetic.

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Excellent image Fred ... really a superb capture. I am not experienced enough to offer any technical comment, so can only comment from the visual point of view. So glad also that there is a new thread to look at, the last one was OK for awhile but Im afraid Im over it.

Hope I can point my scope at this object at some time and come close to this effort.
Thanks Jeff, "that" thread is interesting, never the less. I have view restrictions too, you just wait till it comes round . And that lack of choice at any one time, just forces more data of the same thing to keep busy. More data of one thing is better than lots of short, average images.

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Great image Fred...just stunning!
Taa peeb (?)

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Hey Fred,

Lovely image mate!!!, one of my Fav's NGC253

Wow! man that's some funky **** you have done on your site. When I
scrolled down I realised I have your M8 image as my desktop lol, hope
you didn't mind.

Thanks for posting : )

regards,CS
Thanks Rob. On yr desktop?, Im honoured , anytime. NGC253 is a bit messy in places, I think diffuse cloud obscures some of it. M104 can look better on a good night.
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Old 19-08-2008, 08:09 PM
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MMMMM, lovely Sculptor Fred, I blew up to max and nothing but a lovely sharp image.

The dark lanes and nebulae within the body of the galaxy are really quite detailed and sharp in this image.

Very enjoyable to view.
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Old 19-08-2008, 08:21 PM
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Sorry Fred. You know how it is...you can do better. Look at the histogram dude. Black clipped in all channels.For 9 hours lum, i feel certain you'd have nothing to hide so can't see the reasoning behind the clipping. I surprised you didn't notice as that's whats causing the dark magenta hue across the image - the green channel is clipped more than the red and blue (red+blue=purple). I'm not sure if you look at colour cards when you process. I find it helps as you can determine what colour interacts with what and more importantly determine ways to negate the colour shifts you dont want. They've good for neutralising backgrounds. If you use curves to boost the green channel, you see a much more aesthetic result. I think a repro is in order.
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Old 19-08-2008, 08:34 PM
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sigh, I clipped in desperation last minuite to bury gradients. OK, OK, ill have another go, yr a hard man Jase (and thanks for that ;-)
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Old 19-08-2008, 08:48 PM
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Sorry Fred. Sometimes the truth hurts. At some point, one must rise to tell the king that he has no clothes on - bad analogy, but expresses the point.
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Old 19-08-2008, 09:23 PM
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I tweaked it Jase, see how it goes.

And Ric, thank you .
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Old 19-08-2008, 09:54 PM
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another very nice image Fred. I must say, the dust lanes are perhaps the best of any 253 shot I've seen...
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Old 19-08-2008, 09:58 PM
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Hi Fred,

This is the second purple image I've seen tonight.
You and Mike have me worried as I'm doing colour critical work tonight.
I was relieved to see others have mentioned the purple hue.

Other than that it's a nice image.

Cheers
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Old 20-08-2008, 01:14 AM
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Still no go...(see attached) actually what you're clipping is the background gradients by the looks of things, but there are a few faint fuzzies that don't look right.
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Old 20-08-2008, 02:07 PM
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Thanks Alex, it seems the dust lanes are the only good thing in the image .

Thanks Stuart, after a while staring at a screen, purple sort of looks good. Its not till the next day it looks wrong.

Jase, yeah yeah, OK, gimme some time
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Old 21-08-2008, 05:56 PM
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Yeh I guess there are some minor technical issues but hey overall it's an impressive image Fred! Looks like you are right on top of the galaxy (just the way you like it huh? )

Like Jase's Helix though (err?..have we discussed that image by the way...?) this FOV doesn't really do the galaxy justice to me, it's like looking through a not fully open window. I know you can just keep going on and on with the mega data ie set and forget with your system without too much worries but (and it is just a question not a real critisism) why didn't you rotate the camera just a little to fit the entire galaxy in?

Quite a nice job though and well worth the look.

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Old 21-08-2008, 06:45 PM
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wow, im glad you like it generally Mike, nice change, its all starting to get to me lately, not getting it right etc. Im on a redo right now due to a regular Jase hammering. Yes, the FOV aint ideal, it urks me too, but Im buggered if Im gunna rotate the cam with a whole new set of flats for one object. Megadata also means I image 2 or more objects at the same time over a few weeks, depending on Moon, weather and position (ha, then RGB non moon), so sometimes the rotation doesnt suit one of them.

Thanks for the encauragment.
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