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Old 19-11-2007, 10:52 AM
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Comet 17P/Holmes - mission impossible

Sometimes I try the silliest things. I reckoned I'd have a shot at viewing this fella from Melbourne. Yeah it's low, real low, so all I need is some elevation - right?

Found a spot up in the Dandenongs at 420m where I could look to the North. There are mountains to the North, but there was a gap in the ranges exactly to the North of my observing location and I calculated that the comet should transit that gap, or a little higher, for around 30 min at 1am.

So there I was, last night, set up with my 20x80s from 12:30am, looking at .......... well cloud to start with. But that finally cleared to reveal........... hellish skyglow from Melbourne! Even the Pleiades were not easy to spot naked eye and they were to be my direction marker. But through the 20x80s, no problem.

To cut to the answer, I didn't observe Comet 17P/Holmes, but then I hardly observed anything lower than delta Persei at around 3-4 deg. The dead giveaway was that alpha Persei (Mirphak) could not be seen (around 1 deg elevation!!!), transiting the gap, or even higher, I thought. The comet should be at that elevation or a little higher.

I've attached a plot from Stellarium. The star under the cursor is delta Persei. The straight white line is approximately 0 deg elevation. With the extra height, this may have been a bit above the horizon (Stellarium doesn't seem to adjust when I change the elevation - it's too painful a piece of software to try and go to 2000m to test it! Individual clicks on a button are required to slowly add 10m at a time!) The wiggly line is the elevation below which I could not see stars. Red circle/cross - approx position of the comet.

However, three clues:- 1) By 2:18 as I headed home, the Moon was a deep dark red colour at about 1 deg. 2) We have had fires in Victoria in the direction of the prevailing wind last night. 3) This morning as I drove to work there was a very obvious band of smoke/pollution up to about 10 deg elevation.

I reckon if I had clean air I might pick it out! Am I stupid enough to stay up and try again? Who knows!
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Old 19-11-2007, 11:04 AM
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I checked it out last night erick and it was very faint in my light pollution...and according to SN the center of Holmes was still north (below) alpha Perseus by about 1/2 a degree. Mind you Holmes is about 3/4 of a degree wide now anyway
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Old 19-11-2007, 11:07 AM
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yes you are indeed a desperate man!!
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Old 20-11-2007, 02:56 PM
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yes you are indeed a desperate man!!
Agreed Houghy, a deeply disturbed individual....

Eric, just drive up to Bendigo on a clear night, then NW on the Loddon Hwy, turn right at Pyramid-Yarraberb Rd about 20km out, then right onto Bridgewater-Raywood Rd, and pull up on the left about 200m along. And there it is!!

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Old 20-11-2007, 03:04 PM
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Too far from my nice warm bed I think I'll give up now, it was fun trying. I saw it briefly from Darwin, that will have to do.
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Old 21-11-2007, 08:29 PM
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props to any of you guys from the deep south that spot this one
Its ask from up here atm and not a lot to see .. lots of moist air and that moon ..
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Old 22-11-2007, 10:11 AM
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It was magnificent from here. Didn't even have to roll the roof back, just opened to doors and pointed the 12" at it.
It fills the 40' field at 115 times and it's actually bigger than the Sun! Amazing!
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Old 25-11-2007, 04:54 PM
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looking a little clearer for a change on the coast
enjoy your trip glen ?.. you didn't miss much weather wise

I have snagged a few great nights with this one , sure is a nice view.
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Old 25-11-2007, 07:16 PM
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Yes thanks, a good trip.
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