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Old 05-11-2007, 12:07 PM
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Thumbs up First Auto-Guided DSO's! NGC253, NGC1365, M45..

Hi all

Last night was the first clear night in 5 days, and the only clear night predicted for the next 7. THere was still patchy cloud at times, but I wanted to tackle auto-guiding so I was ready for the next clear night.

Turns out auto-guiding is a snap Especially with PHD Guiding and GPUSB. It was up and running almost immediately, so when the clouds did clear for an hour or two, I was able to get some auto-guided imaging in!

All objects with:
Saxon ED80 on EQ6, auto-guided through 80mm refractor using DMK21AF04, PHD Guiding and GPUSB, WO 0.8x II reducer and Canon 350D.

NGC253 and NGC288
- 13x 180s exposures @ ISO800

NGC1365 and friends
- 5x 180s exposures @ ISO1600

M45
- 10x 180s exposures @ ISO1600

All dark frame subtracted and processed using ImagesPlus, post-processing in Photoshop.

I have learned that:
- 3 minutes is way too long for ISO1600, just too much noise. I'll stick to ISO800 from now on.
- clouds are very frustrating, especially when you're in the middle of a long exposure.
- Auto-guiding rocks! It's just so simple and easy, don't need to touch it! I'll never drift align again
- I hate light pollution and want dark skies
- I need a lot more exposures
- I hate setting up and packing away
- NGC1365 is small and faint, but it's near a galaxy cluster! (which i'll image on it's own next time)
- M45 is a challenging target! Needs a lot more, and longer, exposures.
- DSO imaging takes forever!

Thanks for looking.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:15 PM
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Really lovely shots. The shot of 1365 and companions is really brilliant as is the one of 243. Didnt realise 288 was in the same field for an 80mm scope. Very well done
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:26 PM
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Nicely going Mike. Great start.

You will still have to drift align otherwise you will still get field rotation for longer exposures.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:27 PM
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You will still have to drift align otherwise you will still get field rotation for longer exposures.
You're such a party pooper.. You know how to ruin my day don't you
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:31 PM
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trust me mike, once you get comfortable with it and learn how to do it with K3 you will be welcome to all the best Star Parties.
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Old 05-11-2007, 12:38 PM
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Welcome to base camp Mike! The rest of us think we are higher on the mountain. Some of us are suffering from delusion.

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Old 05-11-2007, 01:31 PM
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Hi Mike

Great images – well done. Your enthusiasm is infectious and I hope it will inspire many others to embark on the path of auto guided astro photography; from base camp to mind numbing high altitudes where the air is rarefied indeed when working at focal lengths of 2000mm plus!

Cheers

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Old 05-11-2007, 02:22 PM
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Yep, you make me want to get autoguiding up and running now.

I'm going to order in my GPusb adapter very soon, I first want to see how the EQ6 handle with out first, get used to the mount, that being said I'm sure my tube rings for my guide scope are in.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:41 PM
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Excellent stuff Mike, great first shot at autoguiding I find the clouds don't affect the imaging as much as they affect the autoguiding. If there's cloud about and it cuts out the guidestar briefly it can ruin the lot when your autoguiding software goes hunting for the guidestar.
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Old 05-11-2007, 04:28 PM
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There you go Mike, I bet you stood there and smiled to your self when you watched that little Star try and escape from the grip of the cross hair, well I did, To auto guide for the first time is such a buzz, I reckon, and it still is for me, nice work Mike.

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Old 05-11-2007, 04:46 PM
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The man with the golden touch..... They are awesome Mike! The NGC1365 shot with the galaxy cluster is beautiful..... Look out Jase!
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Old 05-11-2007, 04:59 PM
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trust me mike, once you get comfortable with it and learn how to do it with K3 you will be welcome to all the best Star Parties.
how come they still let me go then Eh?
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:01 PM
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I reacon you know how to do it h0ughy, but you just like the company
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:09 PM
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I reacon you know how to do it h0ughy, but you just like the company
sad, I havent touched the G11 since August 28, or the eq6 for that matter as for the alignment, much needed practice, must learn from master!!!!
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:59 PM
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Wow.... NCG1365's friends include:
NGC1374, NGC1375, NGC1379, NGC1387, NGC1399, NGC1404, NGC1381, NGC1380, NGC1386, NGC1369, NGC1389....
and a couple of others too.....

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Old 05-11-2007, 06:59 PM
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Mike, your "I have learnt that" section summarises DSO work quite well. Its a stark contrast to planetary imaging. Once you get the basics down, you can begin to refine how you collect data and more importantly how you process it - which is actually where 80% of the work resides.

Well done on the milestone. Only up from here. You do realise that as you progress, you raise the stakes. Thus, everyone will expect more from you (or at least I will anyway).
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:30 PM
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Good to see everything went well for your first attempt at autoguiding Mike, you should be proud of your results.

A whole new area has now opened up for you with your imaging. We look forward to your progress. Hopefully one day we will have a clear sky to attempt autoguiding ourselves.

Well Done.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:38 PM
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Yep, while it isn't rocket science, it sure gives a buzz to have the machine do all the work huh? Well done. as Jase said, only upwards now.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:47 PM
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Great work. Well tracked and focussed, looks like the autoguider is doing its work well.
You should take the rig to Kulnurra or other dark sites then you could use ISO 1600.
As a guide I find if the histogram is more then halfway across then images are too bright and either exposure time or ISO need to be reduced.
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Old 05-11-2007, 08:39 PM
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wow Mike, awesome, you learn quick ;-). You should get 5min at 1600 with the 350D (with darks) without too much noise.
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