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Old 24-05-2007, 07:21 AM
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Pretty Little Snake Photograph

As some of you know, I am in West Texas having attended the 2007 Texas Star Party. I have now travelled north from TSP to Comanche Springs Astronomy Campus. Larry Smith the director at Comanche Springs Astronomy Campus had mentioned they had a lot of rattlesnakes around the place. I said, "if you see one while I am there let me know because I would like to see it and get a picture of it, with my telephoto lens". My intention was to photograph the snake at a safe distance.

Last night I arrived at Comanche Springs about an hour before sundown to observe with the 15" refractor. Larry said to me as I got out of the car, "there is a snake under the blackberry bush which you can get a picture of". He said, "it's not a rattlesnake but a 'bull snake', but will make for a good photograph." He said, "they are not poisonous and we like them around the place because they keep the rattlesnakes away".

Larry and I then walked over to the "blackberry bush" where I proceeded to take the attached photograph of the little "bull snake".

Just prior to taking the shot Larry Smith asked me if I wanted him to move it out from under the bush. I said, "no I can get a great shot from here." Keep in mind that my camera was about 1 foot from the snake when I took the photograph with the 18 - 55mm zoom lens, I had borrowed from Andrew Catsaitis (Rocket Boy). When the shutter went off, the snake which was facing away from me, struck at me (or the camera) and missed by a couple of centimetres. The snake repositioned itself after striking and missing and settled in a slightly different position. When it settled I could clearly see the end of its tail, which I could not see, before taking the shot. I said to Larry, "Larry it's got a rattle on its tail". He took a closer look and said, "oops, I am gonna need to wear my glasses when I am out here in future". The snake then took fright at us and dissappeared under the fence.

Now I gotta tell ya'll it wasn't until about 5 minutes later that the reality and significance of what had just happened hit home. Had the snake been facing me when I took the photograph it must surely have got me, from such close range. Young rattlesnakes of this size, about 3 feet long, are the most venomous. Medical treatment is about 2 hours drive away.

I haven't stopped changing my undies since last night

Never ever ever again will I ever do anything so stupid, as what I did last night and I just think myself extremely lucky not to be in hospital very very ill at this time, or possibly dead.

Now I doubt you're ever gonna see another close up like this, of a WESTERN RATTLER, but everyone please learn something from my stupidity.

Edit: When one of the local Texans (Dink Wilson) identified the snake he called it a "Western Rattler". Not knowing much about them, I automatically assumed this to mean "Western Diamond Back Rattler". Dink later explained that this snake is not a diamond back and is one of several species that come under the family of western rattlers. He said it is what's known as a "prairie rattler" and looks almost identical to a bull or gopher snake. He said they are not common in this area and he could understand how Larry thought it was a Bull snake. He admitted that when he first saw my photograph he also thought it was a Bull Snake. When I told him it had a "rattle" he knew it was a Western Rattler or "Prairie rattler". There are several sub-species of these depending on location but they are all very similar, including Desert Massasauga and Hopi rattlesnake.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C...is_nuntius.jpg

Here is a link to some photographs of a Bull or Gopher Snake

http://www.bentler.us/eastern-washin...er-snakes.aspx

It's very easy to see how Larry mistook the identity and how Lucky he was, that he didn't try to pick it up and move it for me to photograph.


CS-John B
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Old 24-05-2007, 10:04 AM
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Bloody Norah, John. I bet Larry's not feeling all that well either.
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Old 24-05-2007, 10:45 AM
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WOW!!!! That's a lucky escape John

We got shivers just reading your story

We can't imagine what feelings you had afterwards. Your heart rate would have been on full throttle.

Good pic by the way
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Old 24-05-2007, 10:59 AM
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thats a lovely little snake
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Old 24-05-2007, 12:00 PM
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Geez, you were lucky John.
You'll be reliving that experience for quite a while.

I agree with you David, it is a very handsome snake.
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Old 24-05-2007, 02:45 PM
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Nappy change time!!!

Hey John, I know a friendly Shark that would like you to take a picture of his back teeth! He's harmless, honest
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Old 24-05-2007, 07:08 PM
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Amazing story, but what a great shot.

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Old 25-05-2007, 02:32 PM
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They are girly snakes compared most of your home grown aussie snakes
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Old 25-05-2007, 02:34 PM
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They are girly snakes compared most of your home grown aussie snakes
At least a Rattler tells you when it's going to strike! Not like our Aussie sneaks!!!

Still damn scarey though, thinking it was safe and it wasn't!
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Old 27-05-2007, 04:19 PM
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They are girly snakes compared most of your home grown aussie snakes
Well maybe they are girly snakes compared to an inland taipan, brown or king brown snake, in terms of overall venom toxicity. However, consider that an average of 12 people PER YEAR die in the USA from rattlesnake bites. Then consider that 12 people wouldn't have died in the last 20 years from snake bite in Australia. So maybe they are girly snakes compared to an inland taipan, but they are far from toys, to be played with

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Old 27-05-2007, 04:26 PM
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At least a Rattler tells you when it's going to strike! Not like our Aussie sneaks!!!
Ken,

That is obviously not true in all cases because this bloke did not rattle before striking. The camera click obviously scared and startled him. As soon as the shutter fired he just lashed out backwards. Let me also tell you he was blindingly fast. Him missing had nothing to do with me jumping backwards, it was solely due to his aim being off as he struck blind going backwards. He could have even been asleep. He was certainly very still before I fired the shutter. Obviously they only rattle as a warning when there is time and they are attacking, not when they strike in self defense.

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PS: I almost died twice. The second time when I got home yesterday and told my wife what happened with the snake
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