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Old 05-10-2021, 02:24 PM
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Sqaure stars in images

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I would like to ask the group what things can cause square stars in an image.

The image was taken through a Vixen like scope 200mm f4 with thick spider vanes.

The camera was a asi533MC colour OSC with a Baader coma corrector.
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Old 05-10-2021, 02:37 PM
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This is diffraction on spider vanes.
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Old 05-10-2021, 02:38 PM
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Square stars results from strong four-sided symmetry anywhere in the path.

If you consider that that you actually have a circular objective cut into four smaller quadrants, each one with two straight sides and a curve, hypothetically you can re-arrange them as a square aperture with the curved bits overlapping in the middle. This will give square stars just as surely as shooting through a square objective does.

Only way to get rid of them is either:

- use a scope with no vanes, or
- if you must have vanes, make them curved with a radius equal to the semidiameter of the objective
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Old 05-10-2021, 03:36 PM
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HI

I would like to ask the group what things can cause square stars in an image.

The image was taken through a Vixen like scope 200mm f4 with thick spider vanes.

The camera was a asi533MC colour OSC with a Baader coma corrector.
As Bojan said, the diffraction spikes could certainly play in to the issue, especially with THICK vanes and maybe binning the image or cropping in too far /too hard etc... many possibilities.

You need more information to get to the root cause.

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Old 05-10-2021, 03:53 PM
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Ah, the Vixen Blocky Stars - I bet the scope was either a VC-200L or an R200SS.

Well known issue, usually resolved by thinning the over-thick spider vanes, making sure the primary mirror clips aren't stressing the mirror and making sure not to under-sample images.
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Old 05-10-2021, 04:01 PM
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Square stars

Thanks all for your input.

Yes you are correct its a VC-200L clone scope.
How thin would the vanes have to be ground down to eliminate this effect?





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Ah, the Vixen Blocky Stars - I bet the scope was either a VC-200L or an R200SS.

Well known issue, usually resolved by thinning the over-thick spider vanes, making sure the primary mirror clips aren't stressing the mirror and making sure not to under-sample images.
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Old 05-10-2021, 05:23 PM
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I seem to recall thinning to 3mm was considered safe
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