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Originally Posted by el_draco
Economists consistently say the improvements in the U.S. economy are a legacy of Obama, not Trumpet. This piece of trash has wiped out the environmental protection process and given open slather to anyone who wants to pollute. He's attempted to destroy health care in the U.S. and handed the richest a multi-billion dollar bonus... at the expense of the poor. he's radically divided the country and that's just for starters.
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Economist are split... however, almost all give credit to Trump for the recent stock price surge. This of course, has nothing to do with the economy, per se, but gives an indication of investor apetite for investment based on promises (true or false) as to where the GOP are going to take "capitalism". Obama's legacy is that he at least paved the way for a reduction in the paperwork associated with regulation, even though his administration increased regs (particularly in Oil and Gas, after the Macondo incident). His administration at least made the process more streamlined, thus more "corporate friendly" (I have Republican friends who seriously disagree with me here...

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I'm not happy with who he has as the head of the EPA, period. I suspect that over-sight over areas such as ANWAR and offshore GOM are going to revert to the G.W. Bush days. Obama oversaw the worst envionmental disaster in US history and changed things so it (most likely) won't happen again. I'd like to keep it that way.
As for destroying health care, I have to

. It was already destroyed. The problem is that the GOP and Dems should have gotten together to fix the ACA, not rip it down. Almost every American wants free choice when it comes to health care. The ACA took that away (think individual and corporate mandates). I'm on a group plan with my company, which is far better than what I could get under the ACA at 25% less cost.
Easy math...
The reason the ACA is so costly is that it's designed to force young healthy people (under the individual mandate) to support and subsidize the unhealthy one (and the elderly).
I do agree that Trump's being self serving with respect to the new tax reductions... millionaires get about a 3.3% break, whereas I'll get about 2.4%. Better than a kick in the pants, but I see your point.
The best part of the tax plan is the ability for corporations to repatriate money. Granted a lot will be given to shareholders as dividends or to buy back stock, but there has already been a significant number of companies that plan on reinvesting (Apple for example) and expanding operations (i.e. more jobs) in America, along with raising wages and giving a bonus (Walmart of all companies!). So I'll disagree that the tax bill is hurting the US.
The US divided when Obama took office... Trump just exposed the under-belly. Obame was too far left for the right and Trump too far an idiot for the left... and is now showing that he's far right to boot.
Bottom line : Both parties suck at governing, not unlike the sitation in Australia...
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He's working on it. Since Trumpet took over, the Kim dong dong camp has accelerated its weapons development program... and I don't blame them one little bit.
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North Korea's foray into Nukes is well documented and it's the Clinton administration who let the Genie out of the bottle in 1994.
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That's because he is a complete and utter narcissistic scum-sucking abomination on every level. Since being "elected" he's pulled out the same rule book as most dictators, destroy any opposition and discredit those who challenge what he does.. If he wasn't such a tub of lard, I'd expect him to goose step.
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Agree with almost every point... well said. The only difference is that 1) we (United States of America) are still democratic; 2) we have the right to ignore him (which upwards of 64% do) and; 3) we reserve the right to shoot our pollies...

so I don't expect to goose-step anytime soon.
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He's a proven liar, cheat and completely self centred. What's not to hate? Name one redeeming factor!
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As is every politician, statesman, diplomat and most every Homo Sapien on the planet. As for redeeming factor? His hair make's the Golden Pheasant look good!
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The Kradashian world is where Trumpet thrives, pander to the moron fringe and deny reality. The "credible" news outlets state the case and back it with facts. The Trumpet camp sends out "tweets". When the credible news outlets are all aying the same thing... time to listen.
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100% correct.
In closing, I don't mind Trump, I just wish he would shutup and govern. I agree that Hillary would have made a bad choice. We (America) were presented with two evil... guess which one was the lesser?
I would have preferred John Kasich as a candiate for the GOP and Lincoln Chaffe for the dems. But both were eliminated. I could not bring myself to vote for a Presidential ticket this time around, so I didn't. Voted in all other areas, but not for the top ticket.
2018 mid-terms should be interesting. The dems have a chance to win a few seat in the lower house, with the senate up for grabs.
OIC!
<Std Disclaimer> I'm a registered independent in the US. I'm economical conservative, socially liberal, fiscally responsible.