If it weren't for motorcyclists who think the road rules don't apply to them, it would be far harder to get an organ transplant. So a big thank you to those who think screaming through residential areas at 2am is fun. Your body parts are well appreciated by many people who appreciate what it is to be able to be alive far more than you do.
Do you ride a motorcycle? Have you ever? If not then you probably do not know that there are far more idiot car drivers than motorcycle riders out there being protected by the cage they sit in and making even worse desicions. Typical one size fits all thinking however; that is your choice.
We were all young and dumb once and pushed our limits with varying outcomes. This poor bugger didn't get away with it. I never encouraged my kids to partake in the riskier sports of my youth - so many close calls.
Quite Horrendous, either way, Bike &/or rider, , & Yep, Agree, speed & in-experience on big bikes like that 'Dont Mix' But, Who knows what happened exactly ?
The obvious is not always the case ?
I Agree also Bart, the % of car accidents among cars (excluding trucks, buses etc) are a good amount higher than the % amongst bikes,, ? but out of each, there more bike riders in hosp for a week or more!
Funny: Aussie-Troopper, , My Son Ripped his leg open from knee to hip, a huge flap of flesh gouged out from a guard-rail. Emerg Drs said they Like Bikers, cause they give the most body parts, Lol, & that exactly what he said - funny after the fact but , oh man
Ive ridden bikes pretty much my whole life, & have had one major spill very much like this one, parked my front wheel beside the engine after hitting a sign, I was lucky and walk away after 10 minutes of 'shock'.
I will also admit it was entirely my fault, negligence in assessing how close the round-about was, had my eyes elsewhere for a moment. That was way back in the '80's ?
I just hope this guy learns from it as much as I did, how/what ever caused it !
Was driving up Buderim hill in QLD many years ago - it's quite steep a grade. Anyway, about half way up there were Police lights flashing, and what I initially thought must have been engine oil from the motorbike starting to run down the hill...
It wasn't oil.
Humbling. The road was entirely closed soon after - I was there pretty much after the Police got there so they let me through.
I saw a worse one just outside the Ettamogah Pub between a Landcruiser and a Camry. Loss of life for that one too. It was sickening to see. I think the elderly driver of the Camry got confused or had medical issues by memory.
A good mate of mine has been riding for over 30 years. Never had an accident. He rides his bike like it's a car. He takes up a lane, and stays there. No lane splitting, no weaving through traffic.
Another mate is in his early 30s and on his third bike. Lost his license a few years ago.
You see these idiots treating car traffic like some kind of slalom track, or on ape hangers with no proper leathers and an open faced helmet, seemingly thinking that if they make enough noise they become invulnerable, and wonder just who is going to have to go and visit them in hospital one day. Or worse...
I raced bikes (mx & sc) and have done less than 500klms on the road because it is so dangerous. I kept a road bike to use if the car needed service etc.
You fall on the track its no big deal, I have had many falls never really badly hurt but on the road so much can go wrong. Best rider in our club coming home from work hit by a car smashed his leg and he lost it from knee down. He co tinued racing but was no longer competative. Pity he would have been a champion.
Most street races have themselves on you dont really go fast until racing.. worlds apart.
its obvious a lazy cop left his streamer out and it got tangled in the spokes, its there plain as day in the photos .
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Originally Posted by sil
not a fan of bikes but i've rarely seen idiot ones on the road, tons of idiot car drivers though who put others safety at risk.
You should come to our area. There seems to be a concentration of them here. Aside from the clowns on their unregistered trail bikes, there are lunatics pushing 150 in a 50 zone, every day. All it takes is one mistake, one dog walking out in front, one puddle that they didn't notice, and the Police have to do the awful job of scraping up another street pizza. Fortunately, Highway Patrol have been collecting sets of idiots in our area lately. It has quietened right down, so they must almost have the full set.
I agree that car drivers make up the vast majority of on-road idiocy, but the bike riders are the ones who become the projectiles. Their results in these situations are on the whole, much more perilous, and they need to be a lot smarter in their approach.
Fortunately, the vast majority of bikers are sensible, as are car drivers. Any serious accident is a horrible thing to have to see. I had a good driving instructor, who for weeks made me constantly check for bikes in my mirrors, until it was second nature. Unless they come screaming up behind me, I see them early and move over (away) slightly, to acknowledge them.
I think that on the whole, the percentage of idiot car drivers and the percentage of idiot riders is likely to be about the same. The problem is that idiot bike riders are playing with a lot higher stakes.
I drive Melbourne western ring road daily, traffic is crap, it has been for the whole nine years I have worked where I am except for a short period of bliss in the middle without roadworks. I see plenty of cars barging their way around and being generally antisocial in a vain attempt to get ahead in the traffic. Several times a week I see riders lane splitting through moving traffic at speeds that leave even observant drivers virtually no reaction time at all. you decide on a lane change, start looking in your mirrors, see nothing, look again, still see nothing and halfway through the lane change see the bike coming through between the cars behind you at double your speed. I rate those riders about the same as I do the drivers you see on a daily basis belting along the emergency lane at 70KMH past the nearly stopped traffic, the difference is that there is bugger all the coppers can do about the lane splitters without roving motorcycle coppers doing the same themselves to catch them.
Most "Bad" bike behavior I tend to turn the other cheek, but I will have a much more sympathetic ear to complaints about "Idiots in their cages" when idiots on bikes stop lane splitting at high speed in heavy traffic.
If it weren't for motorcyclists who think the road rules don't apply to them, it would be far harder to get an organ transplant. So a big thank you to those who think screaming through residential areas at 2am is fun. Your body parts are well appreciated by many people who appreciate what it is to be able to be alive far more than you do.
I am sure all those parents who have lost sons to idiot car drivers who don't obey road rules will really appreciate your comment. I got nailed TWICE by idiots who thought "Give Way" and "Stop" did not apply to approaching motor bikes.
Two smashed up legs, multiple ribs and years of rehab required before I could walk properly again was the result... There are far more fools on four wheels than on two.....
I am sure all those parents who have lost sons to idiot car drivers who don't obey road rules will really appreciate your comment. I got nailed TWICE by idiots who thought "Give Way" and "Stop" did not apply to approaching motor bikes.
Two smashed up legs, multiple ribs and years of rehab required before I could walk properly again was the result... There are far more fools on four wheels than on two.....
Yeah, because that's what I said...
If you want to complain about motorists, go start another thread and stop pretending I am defending them.
I haven't bothered reading the debate above about whether motorbike riders or good evil or otherwise. we all share the road at the end of the day and we all want to get home safely.
I think the motorbike rider may of been a bit inexperienced. The reason why i say this is by looking at the chicken strips on the front and rear tyres. i think he just got out of his depth and either freaked out (aka by not leaning enough) or hit some slick on the road which made the bike unstable and lost control by pulling off the throttle and hitting the brakes which may of made it worse for him. There is a whole lot of theory on this, twist of the wrist is a great read to explain all of this. I know when my rear end has come loose by keeping on the revs and not transferring the weight to the front of the bike by front braking has saved my butt more then once!
On a good point at least he was doing stupid crap by himself at 2am in the morning, where he won't hit another car or person but go somewhere you can learn without hurting someone. In saying this, he needs to learn how to use the bike properly through some good mentors, and hopefully he has learnt the hard way!.
The adrenaline rush is the evolutionary carrot. We have evolved to like it, because those who didn't were caught and eaten by predators.
The sad thing is that we don't manage it well in today's society. We don't take the time to teach our kids that pushing the boundaries a little at the time, is better than over stepping the mark in one big step.
My father got me onto bikes early. His philosophy was to get the speed bug out of my system before I got on the road. It worked to some extent. At least I had some skills and better judgement than my peers at the time.
I ride motorcycles and love them. I do and/or have done many so called extreme or adrenaline sports, but I have to say they are all best without the adrenaline rush. When you get that adrenaline rush - you are in too deep! Simple. When you get away with it, you chalk it up to experience and learn.
If you have young kids, get them onto bikes, karts, cars, buggies, whatever as early as you can and in a controlled environment where they can learn and make mistakes and develop. Don't wrap them in cotton wool and unleash them onto the road system with minimal skills where they have to learn not only their own skills but how to read what every other idiot on the road is doing. ...and I consider every other road user an idiot. >20 years in road crash rescue has taught me this is so.
