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Old 12-12-2006, 11:30 AM
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Sunspot 930

Sunspot 930; taken 9:25 12-12-06 EST
Orion ED80 and ToUcam
Positive Eyepiece projection approx f/40
Seeing 3/10
Best 100/2500
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:38 AM
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Wow, great stuff Paul! Looks excellent.

Glad you were able to get out there amongst it.
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:40 AM
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Me too, I didn't want to miss this mornings conjunction so I thought I may as well make the most of it and grab 930 while I still had my gear out. Though I'm paying for it now
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:01 PM
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Excellent Paul.

I fear this spot will be gone before I see the sun again...

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Old 12-12-2006, 01:17 PM
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Hey Paul,

That's a very professional quality sunspot pic. Love the granulation. What sort of filter are you using?

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Old 12-12-2006, 01:26 PM
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That great image inspired me to drag out the canon and have a squiz, boy it sure is a big sucker even just looking through the filter itself and it is so close to the apparent center of the disk, the detail at high mag was also great from this location.
Didnt bother with a shot though, Paul's captures it very nicely
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:28 PM
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Thanks Al, Rob and Steve.

Rob, I only used the Baader solar film and a UV/IR filter. It didn't look too flash when I first did it, so I did did another run and stacked only the best 10 frames, sharpened them fairly severely and then applied and blended it as a artificial luminance layer to the original in photoshop.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:58 PM
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Excellent detail, granulation and filaments Paul - a superb image.

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Old 12-12-2006, 04:36 PM
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excellent spot paul. fine fine detail there!
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Old 12-12-2006, 04:56 PM
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you have been airbrushing again haven't you Paul!!! nice artwork, and you should know by now, anything astro is worth it!
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:01 PM
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Excellent capture Paul.

Very impressed.

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Old 13-12-2006, 12:50 AM
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Some questions...

Just a terrific image Paul! This leads me to a couple of questions (please forgive my ignorance, I'm new at this!) - what exactly is "positive eyepiece projection"? Do you project onto something, and what makes it "positive"? How do you get f40 - Barlows etc, or is it to do with the camera? I've mucked around lately with eyepiece projection to get images of the recent Mercury transit, sunspots etc, but just crudely with binoculars and a long cardboard box (telescope box!). Is your method in principle the same, just with much more sophisticated equipment?

Boy, that's a lotta questions!!! Sorry - if you ignore me I'll be suitably humbled!

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Old 13-12-2006, 01:05 AM
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Awesome shot Paul !
Love the granulation and detail mate.

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Old 13-12-2006, 10:27 AM
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Never a silly question Rob.

There are basically 4 way to image through telescope, afocal (image 1), prime focus (2&3), positive projection (4&5) and negative projection (6&7). With my postive projection I use a variable projection adapter that allows me to vary the magnifying power.

Negative projection usually involves a barlow, powermate, teleconverter or some type of focal length multiplier. Positive projection involves using an eyepiece to project an image directly onto the recording surface (ccd, cmos or film).

For eyepiece projection there are formula you can use to work out effectivece focal length and f ratio etc. Attached is a zipped focal length calculator to help work these things out. You will need excel to use it. In the "Afocal Projection" worksheet fill out the details in the red squares for Telescope FL, eyepiece FLs, Camera lens FL and telescope aperture (Red boxes. Use numbers only no text, eg 50, not 50mm) All measurements are in millimeters.

Once you have done that if you check out the "EEP Positive Projection" sheet you will see the figures for FL, F/ratio, system magnification factor (Telescope FL/Eyepiece FL X magnification factor = final magnification)

Hope this helps

All images from Michael Covington's Astrophotography for the Amateur. Cambridge Press
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Old 13-12-2006, 10:56 AM
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Grateful thanks...

Thanks so much for supplying such a detailed and informative response, Paul. Nothing beats a good diagram to explain the intricacies of these things, and I really appreciate your explanation and information.

Cheers -
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Old 13-12-2006, 11:17 AM
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Your welcome Rob, happy to help.
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Old 13-12-2006, 12:28 PM
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Hey terrific shot Paul.

Awesome detail....what is it...lol
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Old 14-12-2006, 06:11 PM
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Would be interesting to see such a high resolution shot taken over a few days. The spot would morph into different shapes. Great shot, regardless.
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