The STL11000 Monochrome is not far away now.

Striker (Tony) · #1 08-11-2006, 01:52 PM

Just heard from Peter Ward today telling me the STL11000 has arrived at ATS....wahoooo

Wasn't expecting it till next month.

So I cant wait to have a play with it and start to learn all about dedicated CCDS.

I'm telling you it was hard depositing that amount of cash into someone elses account.....lol

I still have to wait for the filters and some other accesories but I can atleast get it set up and a start fairly soon.

Wish me luck.

iceman (Mike) · #2 08-11-2006, 02:00 PM

Wow Tony, can't wait to see the results!

h0ughy (David) · #3 08-11-2006, 02:02 PM

so your the problem RE the weather!!! well in anticipation, congrats

TidaLpHasE · #4 08-11-2006, 02:04 PM

Good luck with it Tony, sure will be a learning curve worth mastering.

It might make it easier the more you make those kind of large deposits, i could assist with your problem and ease the pain, my account details are BSB:123456 ACC, 10482#####

Can't wait to see your skills with this fine camera.

[1ponders] (Paul) · #5 08-11-2006, 02:39 PM

more cloud

Onya Tony. Hey what has happened to your new chilled 350D? Have you still got it?

Striker (Tony) · #6 08-11-2006, 02:56 PM

No Paul,

Went back for a full refund.

I'm looking forward to the new learning curve.

Really excited that I need to take Luminance, RGB shots then all the Bias flats and dark frames just for 1 image.

I must be mad.

Still not entirely sure how well it will go with the 10" LX200R combonation.

Time will tell.

Garyh · #7 08-11-2006, 04:17 PM

Great stuff Tony!!!! I would love one of these babies..
cheers Gary

rogerg (Roger) · #8 08-11-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striker

Still not entirely sure how well it will go with the 10" LX200R combonation.

I'm going to be very interested to see your results. A few things I've considered when dreaming about one of these for my 12" is if my field would be flat enough to utilise more than half the chip surface area, and how much their relatively low 55% QE really hurts the exposure times... so it's good to have a beta tester for us

Congrats on the purchase, I suspect however bad the results they'll still be stunning

Roger.

RB (Andrew) · #9 08-11-2006, 06:02 PM

mmm that's a bit of bad luck Tony cos if you waited another month or so you could have ordered the new STL15000 XL.
It's stated QE of 76% is nothing to sneeze at considering it's replacing the ST11000 at the same price point.

Oh well.

J/K
Congrats mate...

Striker (Tony) · #10 08-11-2006, 06:18 PM

haha Andrew.

I would hate to see the price of a 11mp ccd camera with 67% QE...ouch.

I would guess at $20,000.

Do you think the severe thunderstorm warning over Brisbane on TV at the moment is my fault...lol

jase (Jason) · #11 08-11-2006, 06:23 PM

Good to hear Tony. I'd better check where my STL11k has gone...

Striker (Tony) · #12 08-11-2006, 06:59 PM

Funny that Jase because when they rung me to tell the camera is ready they called me Jase so I played along saying yep I'm Jase...lol

seeker372011 (Narayan) · #13 08-11-2006, 07:05 PM

Tony
do still have a H alpha filter?
that could be first light for the new toy couldnt it?

Striker (Tony) · #14 08-11-2006, 07:22 PM

I have ordered the Astrodon 6nm 50mm unmounted.
And the Astrodon "I" series LRGB 50mm unmounted set as well.

Still awaiting for all my filters...could be some time due to the boom sale of the STL11000 class 2 chip.

Astrodon have been overwhelmed with orders due to this release.

jase (Jason) · #15 08-11-2006, 08:01 PM

LOL. Nice one Tony.

I'm in the next shipment run so should have it towards the end of the month. Suits me fine. Can't do much with it until I return from O/S in two weeks time anyway. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with it.

Enjoy.

Gama · #16 09-11-2006, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket Boy

mmm that's a bit of bad luck Tony cos if you waited another month or so you could have ordered the new STL15000 XL.
It's stated QE of 76% is nothing to sneeze at considering it's replacing the ST11000 at the same price point.

Is the price the special "Class 2" cameras released as a special once off, or the "Class 1" camera thats a few thousand more. As i cant see how the newer sensor will be brought out at the same low cost...

I was (Still am) tossing buying this camera for some time, but i dont like the QE. Its not good at only 50%, and worse still at H.a at only 32%. Plus a full well capacity of only 50,000.These are the only hindereances i have with this model.
Explains why so many images i seen with this camera all have huge exposure times, like 2 hours 3 hours 5 hours etc.
I find 10 minutes is too long !, imagine 2 hours.
Still, if it autoguides, then why fret...

Good news is QHY is also making a camera with the newer sensor (KAI11002ME) and cost will be around USD $3,000. But of course no autoguiding etc etc.

jase (Jason) · #17 09-11-2006, 03:08 AM

Indeed the KAI11002M chip sets are not very sensitive compared to that of the ME's. It actually peaks in the green wavelength which is kind of useless. The chip is already microlensed so there is no possible way of boosting sensitivity further. If you’re serious about sensitivity, get a back illuminated or NABG chip. For taking pretty pictures an ABG is a safer option.

The STL11K-C2 (class2) is approx A$9k. The Kodak 16.8mp sensor has similar characteristics to the 11mp in the STL11K. The class 1 sensor is about A$4k more.

Interestingly the STL version of the 6.3mp using the KAF-6303E has a QE of 68%, marginally better than the 11k, however will cost you A$14k for the class 2 chip or A$17k for the class 1 chip. Considering the STL11k-C2 is nearly double the amount of pixels for A$9k, this is still a bargain for a cooled 35mm astro CCD sensor regardless of the lower sensitivity.

Camera manufacturers have secured a very limited supply of the 11k class 2 chip, so get in quick if you’re interested. I suspect prices will change back to class 1 spec soon as supplies diminish.

Striker (Tony) · #18 09-11-2006, 08:05 AM

Yep what Jase said.

The STL11000 is not the top of the range its far from it.
Plus I dont likee blooming which will increase QE.

Its just very good value for the size of the chip.

ATS have already stopped the special..I dont think there is many left.

Striker (Tony) · #19 09-11-2006, 08:14 AM

Gama.

Andrew was joking about the newer sensor.....

I consider the STL11000 as a larger chiped ST2000....would this be correct.

Gama · #20 09-11-2006, 02:39 PM

The ST2000 sensor has a better QE overall, but in all is very similar in performance.
Another thing i wasnt over joyed was the Dark current.
Its noted as 0.5 e per sec at 0deg for 10 hours. The SXV-H9 has 0.02 e per second at +10 deg at over 100 hours. This equates to having to do dark frames as a must, wheras you didnt need to with the SXV, and the specs were at +10 and not 0 deg, which is amazing.

But again, the STL does have everything in one package, and it does autoguide and can be fitted with AO easily.
I'll find out my finacial fate by today which way to bite the bullet.