I know there are mixed reactions to the Eureka Flag, and many unions have "taken it" for their own, but the history and significance of the original should not be overlooked.
With the recent debacle over the flag in NZ, it's pretty obvious that the current Aus/NZ designs are still acceptable to the majority.
However, I'd like to suggest a variant - just replace the Union jack on the current Ozzie flag with the Eureka flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_flag_debate
(Interesting comment: The organisation has not consistently supported one design but is opposed to the Eureka Flag - no reason given???)
Add it in somehow after all the Union Jack, upon my understanding, was a combination of earlier flags seeking to reflect the history.
Layer upon layer of flags.
The Eureka flag is too associated with unions and their thuggery. As for the Australian flag, even as a child I thought our flag was boring.
I do like the Aboriginal flag and I think it would be great as the Australian flag (some may suggest a minor change due to the black representing Aborigines). This flag would go a long way to recognising the origins of Australia. The current flag only recognises European history.
The Eureka flag is too associated with unions and their thuggery. As for the Australian flag, even as a child I thought our flag was boring.
I do like the Aboriginal flag and I think it would be great as the Australian flag (some may suggest a minor change due to the black representing Aborigines). This flag would go a long way to recognising the origins of Australia. The current flag only recognises European history.
Just replace the union jack with the Aboriginal flag in the corner
End of story
Once Scotland finally passes a vote for independence and St Andrews flag is removed from the Union Jack, the British flag will have to be replaced with combo of St Patrick and St George so a red X and cross on a white flag.
Just replace the union jack with the Aboriginal flag in the corner
Thanks Nik, you just made me realise that it is the square insert in the Australian flag that I don't like, visually. I've wondered for years what it is about our flag that I don't like.
A blue flag with the Southern Cross would look great. However, the Aboriginal flag seems more appropriate.
. The current flag only recognises European history.
The European History that established this country as it is today, and which passed on nearly all the institutions to it that led to the wealthy and stable democracy that it also is today.
Yes, it would be very troubling and backward looking to acknowledge and remember that.
Regards,
Renato
Some unions are more about control and power than freedom/workers' rights. Hence, we have a royal commission into the conduct of certain unions.
That article in Wikipedia that you referenced Ken, uses "anti-establishment" and "non-conformist" in relation to the Eureka flag. I would think no government would be accepting of such a flag.
Indeed, it is a shame that the new NZ flag with the fern leaf and Crux is not accepted by referendum. Moreover the current NZ flag is very similar to the AU flag, only the Crux stars are red.
In 1988 there was already a consideration of a green-yellow AU flag with Crux and the kangaroo (?) in it.
The idea about an aboriginal symbol and Crux would be great. The Union Jack is from the colonial era.
South Africa did it better: they replaced the orange-white-blue flag with the small NL and UK flags in the white bar by a full colored flag representing the color of the ZA people : red-white-blue, black-green-yellow. I like that flag. The main reason was probably to say the apartheid era goodbye.
Not only the flag, but also geographical names are being 'aboriginalized' e.g. Uluru, Kata Tjuta, and Arnhem land etc, just like South Africa 'Africanized' names e.g. Nylstroom => Modimolle, Pietersburg => Polokwane, etc. There are even (upcoming ?) African names for big cities: Pretoria => Tshwane, Johannesburg => Egoli.
I bet that in 2050 New Zealand will be called 'Aotearoa' with its largest city 'Tāmaki Makaurau' instead of Auckland, and e.g. Alice Springs, Darwin will have new aboriginal names and later maybe even Sydney and Melbourne.
Some unions are more about control and power than freedom/workers' rights. Hence, we have a royal commission into the conduct of certain unions.
Rubbish (sorry), the vaaaaast majority of unions are totally about workers rights and to suggest otherwise is bias BS. The current royal commission is a total political farce, 100%...shame really, because the minority of Unions spoiling the broth could have easily been tamed by other means. Now we are expected to have an election about it..seriously??? friggin BS to the max!
The Eureka flag was a rebel flag for miner's rights in Ballarat, nothing more nothing less. It pales in comparison to the confederate flag which is also a rebel flag.
Anyone else using that flag is doing so wrongly as what they believe it stands for is not in line with what they stand for in reality.
Seriously? We have homeless starving in the streets, children neglected, domestic violence, serious health issues like diabetes, obesity among others....
And people feel it important to change the flag? Might be time to consider our priorities....
The flag is not meant to be changed to reflect the current situation in a country, like it or not we should leave it alone, many fought and died under this flag so that we would have the freedoms we enjoy. Perhaps we should show some respect to the flag and those men and women who fought under it, especially as ANZAC day is just around the corner.
friggin BS to the max!
