Well, I decided to shoot M83 after finishing sessions on my main project (which is still on going), so not a long exposure but still my best on this galaxy I think?
I particularly wanted to show the faint perpendicular arms on the little adjacent galaxy that makes it look like a Tie fighter from Star Wars..and I managed that, so I'll take it as a success
The colours are good Mike and the background good but the galaxy itself looks a bit over processed to me. Potentially a good image but maybe less sharpening.
Thanks Dave and Geoff , yes a few faint fuzzies in there.
Truth be known though, I did process this for more public appeal, shall we say (bit like I did for my NGC 253 image in 2013) so it may well be a bit strong and in your face for many dedicated astroimagers, sorry the response on flikr is almost the largest I have had for any image to date so go figure
That's a good point, Mike. My more outrageously processed images get a much bigger response from the non-astro community but the critics here are often less impressed Jay GaBany made the point in one of his AAIC talks that we are bombarded by highly saturated images in the media these days and he thinks you need to tart up (probably not the terminology he used) astro images to compete for attention.
That's a good point, Mike. My more outrageously processed images get a much bigger response from the non-astro community but the critics here are often less impressed Jay GaBany made the point in one of his AAIC talks that we are bombarded by highly saturated images in the media these days and he thinks you need to tart up (probably not the terminology he used) astro images to compete for attention.
And variety is the spice of life too , I love your outrageous works mate
My more outrageously processed images get a much bigger response from the non-astro community but the critics here are often less impressed Jay GaBany made the point in one of his AAIC talks that we are bombarded by highly saturated images in the media these days and he thinks you need to tart up (probably not the terminology he used) astro images to compete for attention.
Not wanting to hijack your thread here Mike, (I love this image btw) but as a relative newbie to this community, I agree with Rick's comment.
Further, maybe it's just me but it seems a bit futile for us all to be photographing the same objects and processing them to get what largely appear to be the same/similar results. Yes the technical challenge is it's own reward for some - but bringing something creative and new (ie: Rick's latest Veil image) is surely just as if not more worthwhile - albiet not necessarily popular with the purists!
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Truth be known though, I did process this for more public appeal, shall we say (bit like I did for my NGC 253 image in 2013) so it may well be a bit strong and in your face for many dedicated astroimagers, sorry the response on flikr is almost the largest I have had for any image to date so go figure
Yikes! I can't help feeling a little disappointed by those remarks Mike. Who cares about 1000's of Flickr hits?
I just don't like it mate, sorry. It's clearly over cooked. All I see is the potential the image has!
Not wanting to hijack your thread here Mike, (I love this image btw) but as a relative newbie to this community, I agree with Rick's comment.
Further, maybe it's just me but it seems a bit futile for us all to be photographing the same objects and processing them to get what largely appear to be the same/similar results. Yes the technical challenge is it's own reward for some - but bringing something creative and new (ie: Rick's latest Veil image) is surely just as if not more worthwhile - albiet not necessarily popular with the purists!
Purists? Where? ...let's get'em
You are absolutely right Andy, one can become a hardened, unwavering critique with narrow limits of acceptance if one is not careful
Good image Mike with great colors and contrast. High impact.
Sharpening vs. fine features will always be a compromise, no doubt, but the field you're presenting is relatively wide so go for it. No problem here. If you were closer up then yeah, it would make sense to ease up on the processing but a tart always looks good from the other side of the street.
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and he thinks you need to tart up (probably not the terminology he used) astro images to compete for attention.
Yikes! I can't help feeling a little disappointed by those remarks Mike. Who cares about 1000's of Flickr hits?
I don't really, was just a relevant observation mate and backed up my Ricki ie an image many astroimagers aren't too keen on, non astroimagers often love
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I just don't like it mate, sorry. It's clearly over cooked. All I see is the potential the image has!
No worries Marcus, all good...I think I know what you are trying to say perhaps you could spell it out a little more clearly though? Seriously though, thanks for the opinion
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Might I offer my services then for a collaboration, Mike,
You can spit out the expertly crafted,focused, tuned, hyper-processed
masterpieces, and then give them to me and I will overprocess and saturate
the living J.H._hrist out of them for submission to Flikr.
Steve
Hey Steve, clearly, I can do that perfectly well myself mate but I'll keep you in mind
Good image Mike with great colors and contrast. High impact.
Sharpening vs. fine features will always be a compromise, no doubt, but the field you're presenting is relatively wide so go for it. No problem here. If you were closer up then yeah, it would make sense to ease up on the processing but a tart always looks good from the other side of the street.
Thanks Marc, this was a bit of an experiment and getting negative feedback is perfectly fine. While the colours are certainly strong and the contrast up, I tried to be careful not to introduce any obvious sharpening artifacts (no decon worms or spotty background for eg) so the detail should (at least mostly I hope?) be just that..?
I really like your photo. Stars are great and the galaxy is nicely presented. I only do narrowband but what makes RGB imaging exciting to me is, apart from more natural colours, finding faint galaxies in the background.
Those two tie-fighters are very deep and sharp. The one that's a barred spiral with a single strong not-so-tightly wound pair of spiral arms is especially impressive. The halo of M83 is very deep.
(bit like I did for my NGC 253 image in 2013) so it may well be a bit strong and in your face for many dedicated astroimagers, sorry 
the response on flikr is almost the largest I have had for any image to date so go figure 
...let's get'em 
perhaps you could spell it out a little more clearly though? 
