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Old 27-12-2014, 10:47 PM
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Insurance for your Telescopes

I had a look at my home and contents insurance policy last week. I've included my telescopes and equipment (value about $20 thousand) as special items in my contents. My insurer told me this only includes cover for these items while they are at my home. When I asked for a quote to cover them for times when I travel and take them away from my home my monthly premium payment increased by $55 PER MONTH. My insurer is Allianz.

Since I don't know which telescope, mounts, camera equipment etc I might want to travel with at any time I have to cover them all just in case.

Does anyone know if there are insurers who give special rates for astronomical equipment, or alternatively, know of home and contents insurers who don't charge astronomical (pun intended) prices to cover our hobby???
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Old 27-12-2014, 11:32 PM
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Suncorp covered all mine as special items -portable - for only a total of $72 a month (home, contents, special items, portables). I had an incident of stolen portables last year, and they replaced all items within 2 weeks - new for old

I am covered for 2 DSLR and lenses, tripods, 2 telescopes and ancillaries, 2 CCD's and 2 mounts
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Old 28-12-2014, 03:31 AM
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It's not like your going to leave your scope setup in a Westfield carpark while you shop, the risk at some dark site is going to be incredibly low, especially if you are there with other people from IIS. Still if it makes you feel safe or your a careless person and you have the money then go ahead.

I would not even ask my insurer as this is the sort of high margin add-on that they love.
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Old 28-12-2014, 08:33 AM
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Exactly, you are weighing up the risk of a single loss event against the month premium.

$55 per month x 12 mo = $660 x 10yrs =$6600 (and that's not factoring in inflation)

Are you going to lose $6600 of equipment every 10years out in the field ?
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Old 28-12-2014, 10:41 AM
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It's not like your going to leave your scope setup in a Westfield carpark while you shop, the risk at some dark site is going to be incredibly low, especially if you are there with other people from IIS. Still if it makes you feel safe or your a careless person and you have the money then go ahead.

I would not even ask my insurer as this is the sort of high margin add-on that they love.
I really don't like paying insurance at all. If you never claim its money thrown away. However with expensive equipment I'm paying to cover the unforeseen event...the risk that something you can't prevent occurs despite prior best management. That's the same with all insurances. You can be as careful as you like but you can't prevent chance events from happening.

Obviously I'm not going to increase my monthly premium by $55. That's a ridiculous price hike. Hence I'm now consulting you guys before I decide how to move forwards. So far Suncorp has had the only reference and I'll definitely consult them once everyone has had their chance to contribute.
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Old 28-12-2014, 10:55 AM
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Exactly, you are weighing up the risk of a single loss event against the month premium.

$55 per month x 12 mo = $660 x 10yrs =$6600 (and that's not factoring in inflation)

Are you going to lose $6600 of equipment every 10years out in the field ?
Depending upon your investment amount, that may be an incorrect way to look at the premium. If you incur a once off loss, most likely in the form of a serious car accident rather than theft, you could be losing 30k to 90k of equipment. The above analogy is insignificant to the once off loss.

In my case, my equipment is covered anywhere, and it costs about $1800 a year. You just need the right policy for your equipment value. If someone has only 2k-4k invested, I can understand the apprehension to insure.

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Old 28-12-2014, 11:21 AM
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Les n Lewis, does that insurance cover dropping the equipment?

I see this as being one of the commonest reasons to claim.
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Old 28-12-2014, 11:40 AM
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Yes, it covers accidental damage. It is a fully portable cover - I am covered for theft and accidental damage whilst away from home (including overseas)
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Old 28-12-2014, 10:24 PM
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I haven't checked over my policy for years now. So that will be my New Years resolution!

And conpare with other companies. That Suncorp feature seems good value at similar cost to my current policy.
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Old 28-12-2014, 10:42 PM
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I can only see this type of insurance being useful if you get into a car accident (at fault) and your gear gets wrecked. Most comprehensive insurance policies i've seen only cover up to $500 of personal property.
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Old 29-12-2014, 08:38 AM
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Depending upon your investment amount, that may be an incorrect way to look at the premium. If you incur a once off loss, most likely in the form of a serious car accident rather than theft, you could be losing 30k to 90k of equipment. The above analogy is insignificant to the once off loss.

In my case, my equipment is covered anywhere, and it costs about $1800 a year. You just need the right policy for your equipment value. If someone has only 2k-4k invested, I can understand the apprehension to insure.

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Actually Steve, it is not insignificant. It highlights how you must approach the problem.

If you you have $30k worth of stuff you are transporting regularly and don't have the cash flow to replace it outright, then insurance for it could be worthwhile. You have to way up the risk, don't just assume that it is worthwhile. In the event of a car accident per se, the chance of a total loss is actually quite small, a partial loss is more likely and the chance of no loss is significantly greater again.

Insurance companies per on your fear perceptions. I'm not saying don't, just be considerate of your choice as to why. If I was a bad driver, and had totaled 3 cars in the last 20 years, then I would have different metrics and information to work from. Likewise if I had $5k with of equipment and hadn't had a bad accident in 15 years, then I might have a different perception of the potential problem.
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Old 29-12-2014, 11:12 PM
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Yes, it covers accidental damage. It is a fully portable cover - I am covered for theft and accidental damage whilst away from home (including overseas)
Thanks for this info Lewis. I'll definitely be looking into them.

A broad range of attitudes to the question of whether to insure or not. Interesting how we all asses and accept (or don't) levels of risk.
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