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Old 26-08-2006, 10:58 AM
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Helix Nebula

HI Guys,

Got my camera working properly last night and had to have a go at this months DSO challenge.

The flat field did not work to well so I will have to work on that one again.

20 x 4 minute autoguided exposure's at ISO800 on the 10" LX200R at F8

Cooled modded Canon 350D.
Ambient was 15°c
Relative Humidity 80%
CMOS temp 4°c was set to its warmest possible temperture..this is done by the way of slowing down the fan making cooling less efficent...I was worried if I turned the fan up to max then it would have easily gone below -5°c...I dont want that condensation again.

Pretty happy with the results.
Hope you like.
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Old 26-08-2006, 11:08 AM
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You have transformed an object of interest into an object of beauty. Congratulations on getting everything up and running - a superb image and yes, I like very much.

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Old 26-08-2006, 11:10 AM
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Hi Tony,

very nice indeed. Is the red at the bottom right corner, some of the outer of the Helix? Looks reasonably bright.
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Old 26-08-2006, 11:13 AM
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No lester...that's from the camera and should not be there but thanks for pointing it out..lol

The outer neb can be seen faintly lower left but due to my poor efforts with flats I had to darken the image too much reducing the small but visible signs of the outer ring.
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Old 26-08-2006, 11:18 AM
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Wow Tony I love the amount of detail on the inside

Whats with the diffraction spikes? If you like them you should have got a newtonian
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Old 26-08-2006, 11:20 AM
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Nice one Tony , the outer loops are pretty clear on my LT screen, but I maybe my screen settings are burning out the section of the ring from 2-3 oclock.
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Old 26-08-2006, 11:20 AM
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Beautiful image Tony.
The camera is very interesting, I can't wait to see more.

What did you use for the diffraction spikes?
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Old 26-08-2006, 11:22 AM
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Tried to talk him into it one day Geoff, but he's a SCT man to the core. That is until someone makes a 10" Tak refractor
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Old 26-08-2006, 11:47 AM
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Thanks guys.

Lol @ Geoff.....I do like defraction spikes.

The defraction spikes are software enhanced...so no fishing line or string used.

Paul I know what you mean rearding burning out..I can see this on my observatory LCD screen but not on my CRT monitor where I do all my processing.

Give me a newtonian with a focal length of 2500mm that will fit on my G11 and I would......lol
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Old 26-08-2006, 11:56 AM
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Hope you like.
u bet!

congrats on a beauty
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suppose the diffraction spikes are put in using "Astronomy Tools "?

do you have a full res version somewhere? Looks to me like the image could stand up to inspection at higher res
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Old 26-08-2006, 12:15 PM
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The defraction spikes are software enhanced...so no fishing line or string used.
That looked quite obvious to me, and I hope you dont mind the criticism that IMO it doesnt look natural
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Old 26-08-2006, 12:17 PM
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Correct astronomy tools in photoshopCS2

Here is a full rez.....warning 1mb 3500 x 2300 rez
http://www.users.on.net/~striker/Helixfull.jpg

Thats cool Geoff...but you can say all defraction spikes dont look natural.
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Old 26-08-2006, 12:31 PM
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OMG, tony that is simply beautiful. Well done and congrats on working out the camera. Is there any way some dessecant bags could be introduced to help reduce the humidity, or go bush! That is an amazing image mate, going for a malin award next year Eh!
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Old 26-08-2006, 12:56 PM
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I prefer the fishing line spikes to these artificial ones. I usually love them.

Beautiful image, Tony.
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Old 26-08-2006, 01:12 PM
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Nice image there Tony.
I've used the Noels Astro Tools spikes before in PScs(presume that's what you used) if only to clean up bad tracking on my reflector before. One thing that's good about Noels actions is that you can tone done the thickness and extent of the spikes so they don't look too un-natural from within the action itself.
It's quite tweakable if you have a mess.
Perhaps these detract a little from the image a bit.
Humbley, JIMO of course.
Imaging gives us all an artistic license so it's a personal thing.

Thanks for sharing your efforts.

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Old 26-08-2006, 01:38 PM
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Very good result Tony. How do you take your flats? I now always point the lens or telescope to the zenith of a twilight sky when taking flats. Make sure the Sun is below the horizon and there are no thin clouds. I have found any where else that the sky has gradients which show up even worse with wide lenses. This makes the flats almost useless.

Get rid of the ersatz linear diffraction artefacts and it will be even better.
This cooling mod looks extremely worthwhile.

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Old 26-08-2006, 01:40 PM
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very impressive amount of detail at full res
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Old 26-08-2006, 02:03 PM
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Thanks guys,

I will sit on the fence regarding the spikes....I kind of like them but everyone to their own...saying this I will probably not use them again...or maybe I will...lol.
I bet if I didn't tell you all they were fake knowone would have known.....alot of people use a single defraction spike(string) then add the extra spike in photoshop with similar results.

Bert I did the flats this morning before the sun come up but it was cloudy...will do some more tonight when the sun goes down.
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Old 26-08-2006, 02:14 PM
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Stunning Tony, that will make the pain of the camera cost all worthwhile no doubt, Beautiful, simply beautiful.
I can do without the spikes, but that is me.
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