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Old 08-02-2015, 07:49 PM
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Designs for laser pointer and finderscope alignment

I've ordered a cheap green laser off of eBay, and I'm also toying with the idea of attaching a small refractor to my Dob to act as a large finderscope.

I've sketched out ideas for apparatus to align them with the main optical axis and done some googling. There are lots of possible designs I could use for making a device to align a laser pointer with a scope, but I'm always happy to see more ideas.

Has anyone got any good designs for this?

When I've done the laser, I might try something similar for the refractor. If anyone's got good ideas for that I'm open too!

Travis
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Old 09-02-2015, 11:26 AM
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I made a bit of a beast with parts from Jaycar.

I stripped the red diode out of a DOA DVD Burner. Then I put the circuit together, from plans I found on the interweb. I just had to buy a good housing/lens combo on eBay.

For about $15, I was able to create a 120mW laser, that could be seen on the side of a building 150m away, on a sunny day.

For safety, I made the laser as 3 parts (battery compartment, circuitry, diode and housing), and keep them separated when not in use.


As an idea for you, I saw that someone was able to combine red, blue and green laser light, and make a white light output. It was pretty sensational. However, I think the output was over 1 watt, so it would have been quite a dangerous light, too. Aside from obvious eye damage, this would burn skin pretty quickly.
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:35 PM
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Hmm, I think Travis is asking for mounting solutions, not 'How to burn Holes in Buildings' ideas.

Travis,
The usual solution is mount rings with three screws tapped through to provide adjustment for aligning with the main OTA. I have gone through a number of DIY builds and the real criteria is for the finder is abilty to adjust and rigidity once aligned.
How big and what sort of main scope are you using ?
Is his planned to be a right angle finder ?
Where are you mounting it ? How big and stable a surface is the proposed mounting point ?
A bit more info needed if you want valid suggestions..
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:50 PM
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Quite right, this is about making a laser star finder for a telescope, not bringing down missiles.

For the laser I've come up with an idea to use modified wooden clothes pegs (for the spring) with a wingnut that lets the pegs open or close, a simple setup with four pegs and two screws + wingnuts will provide about +- 5 degrees of adjustment for the laser on two axes, which hopefully should be enough.

I've also been thinking of an arrangement for adjusting the aim of binoculars which are paired with the refractor on a separate parallelogram mount which I'm building. They're only 10x50s and I think a row of pegs will have enough spring force in them for making an adjustable platform for aligning the binoculars with the refractor.

The refractor is an 80mm Celestron, weighing just under 2kg. I have in mind a push-pull arrangement with 1/4" round head bolts, washers and springs at one end of the refractor, with the other held reasonably firmly so it has a little angular freedom but otherwise stays put.

Main scope is a 200mm f6 Dob and in yet another scope configuration I am considering mounting the refractor on the tube of that, yes I want to use a diagonal, I built the dob myself and the tube is a plywood box so there's ample room to mount something. Like any decent Dob it's pretty stable.

In case the above is confusing, here are the things I'm mounting:

I have a 200mm Dob, an 80mm refractor, and 10x50 binoculars.

The Dob is separate to the others, but I'm toying with the idea of putting the refractor onto the side of my Dob. Why? Because I can.

I also have a parallellogram mount which holds the refractor and the binoculars. They're mounted with a parallel bar that links the two so the binoculars act as a viewfinder for the refractor. I'm thinking about mechanisms for adjusting the aim of the binoculars. The most elegant one I've thought of so far uses wooden pegs and a bolt plus wingnut on one axis and a simple pivot on the other which can be tightened and made firm.

The parallellogram mount is great fun to use, even though it's still in need of some tweaks. It is however really big and heavy and takes time to set up. I built a simple alt-az mount for the refractor which will soon be made into a convertible design that flips between an alt-az mode and a fork equatorial. As I won't have the binoculars I need a viewfinder, and I figured a green laser pointer was about the cheapest and simplest "viewfinder" one could use, as long as it can be collimated with the main scope. (And that is what this thread is about!)

Sorry it's confusing, but I enjoy having multiple mount options for using my two scopes depending on the type of viewing I plan on doing, and whether I can be bothered setting up the complex mount or just want to take a lightweight refractor outside to look at the moon for a bit. I'm also planning on rebuilding a split-ring equatorial mount for my Newtonian, but that's for another thread.

If anyone has any cool ideas, do let me know.

Travis

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Old 10-02-2015, 10:36 AM
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The 80 mm sounds a bit big and heavy for a DOB, it will require some serious rebalancing. I have a 50 mm RA finder which gets moved to where ever it is needed. It has it's own adjustable mount and mount plate(s) on each scope setup. It goes from the Serrurier 10" in DOB configuration or the Lunt on the EQ6. The Serrurier can be loaded to the EQ6 as well.
My SW 80 f5 is the guide scope on the EQ6\Lunt combo along with an SW 80 f11 which I use for visual checking the target in the Lunt.

I wouldn't mount either SW on the DOB configuration, just the wee 50mm RA finder. I'd add a laser but we're undr the flight path for all incoming jets from across the ditch and it might attract attention. Besides which the EQ6 gets me to within cooee of my targets so not needed.
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:45 AM
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Long time ago I designed a permanent holder for green laser diode
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...t=Laser+holder
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Old 10-02-2015, 12:05 PM
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I just bought one of these

http://www.bintel.com.au/Accessories...oductview.aspx

and a double finderscope shoe

I also altered the laser to run from a main power transformer and added a dew strap
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:50 PM
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I planned to make one like this. It's similar to the Bintel one. Was going to make it from acetal (a hard type of plastic with good machinability). Problem is I changed jobs and don't have access to a mill now.
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Old 10-02-2015, 05:01 PM
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the one I purchased (can't remember where from, online I suspect) had the worst, tiny little adjustment screws. I replaced them with some I got from Keables - longer and with knobs for hand adjustment rather than allen key type insets

http://www.keables.com.au/
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