Lest we remember

[clive milne]

June 8th marks the 47th anniversary of a pivotal moment in history.
Were it not for the truly heroic efforts of a handful of sailors rigging a makeshift aerial under machine gun fire, the nuclear armed bombers en - route to incinerate millions of civilians would not have been recalled and the world would have been a very different place with us being oblivious to who was responsible.

Only in the last decade or so has the veil of obfuscation been drawn aside by those directly involved, which fairly reflects the amount of time required for the explicit threat of reprisals (for breaking silence ) to be no longer meaningful.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/uss-l...-in-the-water/


The significance of the documentary (linked above) is that it is a rare and indelible first hand account that reveals the extent to which the instruments of state (in America) have been subverted by "other" interest groups. The cognitive dissonance one experiences when trying to make sense of US foreign policy ( particularly pertaining to the middle east ) becomes more or less resolved.

I don't believe it is possible to understand the true nature of global politics without putting the puzzle together one piece at a time. The USS Liberty incident is by no means the biggest piece nor does it define the entirety of the situation (So don't read too much in to it) It is simply the clearest path marking an entry to the rabbit hole of global power structures with the least conjecture and BS attached.

[AndrewJ]

Hmm, this is going to get locked real soon
but that said, it was only a few weeks ago
that Malcolm Fraser actually confirmed this specific incident
on an ABC radio interview????
I was waiting for the std lobby group to ring in
and argue against it, but i did think it was interesting
that it was so openly stated by someone in Frasers position.

Andrew

[Ric]

An interesting article Clive.

I suppose there are a lot of things that go in this crazy world that we will never be made aware of in the interests of "our safety"

[clive milne]

Originally Posted by AndrewJ

Hmm, this is going to get locked real soon

Well, that would be a shame.
I think the way to approach it (to avoid the wrath of Mike) is for everyone to remain respectful ... the best way to do that is to detach emotionally from the discussion and avoid value judgements.
You will notice at no stage did I criticise the actions of anyone involved in this incident.
I'm seeking merely to understand. It is such an important piece of history that everyone should at least honestly attempt to without imposing their belief system on what actually happened.

The bombers were in the air and just 3 minutes away from initiating a nuclear exchange with the Soviets (though this wasn't explained in the documentary) which makes the Cuban missile crisis look like a mild disagreement in comparison.

It made it as high as page 29 of the NY times.

[el_draco (Rom)]

Here is another good one:

Lest we think:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/arith...nergy-lecture/

Some other members ought to watch this doco.