While I love the idea of the Istar TCR series refractor (effectively a Strut Refractor):
http://www.istartelescopes.co.uk/page_2413941.html
It seems to negate the traditional advantages of a refractor, and all that glass hanging out in the dew -
Yes you'll need a shroud but it will make the big dob boys feel right at home.
http://www.peak2valleyinstruments.co...33/6106391.jpg