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Old 01-12-2013, 02:22 PM
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Starwaves

3rd Light with the remarkable RHA 305 f/3.8


Image inspired by the Oblivion OST, Track #7


And......... a bottle of Piper-Heidsieck helped a little too! Maybe 2 bottles


http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6049/ko8a.jpg

You gotta love the clone and stamp tool! No hard stars here, in fact hardly any stars at all.

Hey, it's ART.

Enjoy!

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Old 01-12-2013, 02:31 PM
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Excellent detail - well done.
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:55 PM
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Excellent John. Image is too clean and polished for my tastes but still enjoyable none the less. Any more contrast to be had from the Ha curtain?
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:13 PM
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Excellent John. Image is too clean and polished for my tastes but still enjoyable none the less. Any more contrast to be had from the Ha curtain?
Hi Jase,

This is a relatively short exposure set. I'm adding more to clean up the signal and to push the contrast up a bit. It will only get better from here.

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Old 01-12-2013, 07:00 PM
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Beautiful... but not natural without the stars.

The fidelity of scale and detail is amazing!
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:26 PM
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That's dreamy and surreal, perhaps even more so because we all know what we should expect. What a system, to get those stars _so_ sharp is incredible.

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Love it John, exactly as-is. Jaw droppinh actually. Look how real the Flame Neb looks. You can reach out and touch practically.

Boy, are you going to have some fun with that scope!

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Old 02-12-2013, 10:18 AM
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Glad you folks liked the image. The intention of a starless field is to reveal the structure of the ionization front.


I've updated the original set with 3 more hours of data and a few adjustments to the processing. A little more boost to the signal, and allowed for some additional processing while retaining the beauty of the original.

- 15 x 1800s
- 3nm HA AD filter (works just fine at f/3.8)
- STL 11000M (first gen camera, still going strong) the onboard guider was used.
- AP RHA 305 f/3.8. The "All Reflecting Refractor"


Star removal technique (clone and stamp), converted to RGB mode to add a faint blue cold hue to the image, + star spike generator + a bit of an HDR stretch. No sharpening, or smoothing.


Enjoy the ride.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2306/doyb.jpg

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*&(((**^%%$%&*

Yeah, I swore when I saw that image.

There is a canal a LOG WAY AWAY. It's a FAR CANAL. :ROFL:
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:48 PM
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Very nice, but a bit weird
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:06 PM
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A horsehead through the mist Strange look, however I am impressed by the clean removal of all the stars, it was a good idea to leave only the brightest ones to maintain a little dept on the image and avoid artifacts..

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Old 02-12-2013, 10:58 PM
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Nice John. I compared it to my 17.5 hours and there is quite similar looking detail. Clearly the aperture is winning for you, over my littel 4 inch TSA. I like the low noise.
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Sublime.

A corrected Newt it ain't.....
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I love it! Resolution in the flame is awesome, I must say I'm a fan of this in general, without the stars the depth of everything is stunning.

What band pass Ha filter did you use for this ?
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:00 AM
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I love it! Resolution in the flame is awesome, I must say I'm a fan of this in general, without the stars the depth of everything is stunning.

What band pass Ha filter did you use for this ?
3nm. AstroDon. Probably at its limit at f/3.8. It did not work well at F/3 on my little RH200.


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Sublime.

A corrected Newt it ain't.....
I had a Newt once. All that weight loaded at a right angle on the tube was special.


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Nice John. I compared it to my 17.5 hours and there is quite similar looking detail. Clearly the aperture is winning for you, over my littel 4 inch TSA. I like the low noise.
Yeah, aperature wins on signal every time.


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A horsehead through the mist Strange look, however I am impressed by the clean removal of all the stars, it was a good idea to leave only the brightest ones to maintain a little dept on the image and avoid artifacts..

Clear skies
Marco
I am already seeing some intresting features I've not seen before by removing the stars. Note the split of the ion cloud curtain around the bright star to the right of the HH. Is this following a magnetic field? It seems to also flow away from the bend of the shock front. Time to do some reading on this feature. Astronomer's subtract a red continum filiter from their Ha images to see faint structures. This is the poor man's approach, although with the speed of this instrument, I should get one of the filters and try it out.


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Very nice, but a bit weird
Takes a bit getting used to just seeing the nebula. All those star dots play tricks on the eyes.

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*&(((**^%%$%&*

Yeah, I swore when I saw that image.

There is a canal a LOG WAY AWAY. It's a FAR CANAL. :ROFL:
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:21 PM
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All the flagrant boys club boasting aside ...That really is a unique looking portrayal of the Horsey John, not everyone's cup of tea I guess but I really like it

...Colour?...one day? maybe?

Mike
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:08 PM
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Congratulations John!

In my opinion, this is far and away the most inspiring interpretation of this DSO that I've ever seen. Big call maybe but what you have done is to create an art piece from an often seen, somewhat cliche subject. (Hey, I just posted my first, somewhat traditional version in the beginners section yesterday).

Seems that we're all trying our hardest to photograph the same subject and get more detail, more sharpness etc, but you have transcended all that by re-interpreting the subject in a completely unique and artistic way that rises above mere technical purity. Your technique is very, very good and the concept and execution is just brilliant (In my opinion).

Watch out, you may have started something! You've certainly inspired me anyway

Many thanks for sharing!

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I like it .....
A lot of ' depth ' in that nebula ...very dense looking

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Great starless shot. Beautiful details.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:56 PM
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Congratulations John!

In my opinion, this is far and away the most inspiring interpretation of this DSO that I've ever seen. Big call maybe but what you have done is to create an art piece from an often seen, somewhat cliche subject. (Hey, I just posted my first, somewhat traditional version in the beginners section yesterday).

Seems that we're all trying our hardest to photograph the same subject and get more detail, more sharpness etc, but you have transcended all that by re-interpreting the subject in a completely unique and artistic way that rises above mere technical purity. Your technique is very, very good and the concept and execution is just brilliant (In my opinion).

Watch out, you may have started something! You've certainly inspired me anyway

Many thanks for sharing!

Andy
Hi Andy,

You don't know how much I appreciate your thoughts and message. We all have access to the same objects year after year. One of the reasons that I have stuck with grayscale all these years is that I like the tonality that astronomical objects present in black and white and the challenge of the wide dynamic range within the grayscale narrowband results.

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