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Old 06-02-2014, 05:33 PM
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ngc2997 mono only - colour added

hi

was working up a new scope last night when the seeing settled below 2arc sec - best in a long time!. The new scope was nowhere near ready, so I threw the old trusty 200mm back together and aligned the bits more or less by eye in the hope I could get something before the seeing went back to normal. It was partially successful, but the scope ended up a fair way out of whack with a bit of astigmatism and some bad diffraction patterns - I had to tidy up the very messy bright stars in Startools (thanks Ivo) to get something postable.

Anyway, here is the best I could do with the luminance data - unlikely to get colour. Pity I did not have a proper system going for this lot - the seeing was great and the mount was tracking at about 0.3 arcsec RMS! Ah well... thanks for looking. Regards Ray

EDIT: added colour - the best I could get with diffraction issue.
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:46 PM
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a great example of the KISS principle. Quite beautiful.
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:58 PM
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Hi Ray,
that's an amazing picture considering it's a magnitude 10 target.
What telescope exactly did you use & is it from a dark site?

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Old 06-02-2014, 06:36 PM
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Sweet shot of one of my favourite galaxies. Lots of detail.
Love it.

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Old 06-02-2014, 08:54 PM
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Yes, nice shot Ray, especially considering the rush job on the scope
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:04 PM
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That is a really great image, Ray. One that I would be really proud of if it were mine.
Glad you had the ability to put all your equipment together and produce something for us to see.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:11 PM
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Watch you talkin'bout Willis that's excellent, the scope looks like it was working bloody perfectly great result...now getting the colour right on this one is a different story though

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Old 07-02-2014, 12:36 AM
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a great example of the KISS principle. Quite beautiful.
thanks you Simon. yep, KISS it is

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Hi Ray,
that's an amazing picture considering it's a magnitude 10 target.
What telescope exactly did you use & is it from a dark site?

cheers
Allan
Hi Allan. thank you. The site was fairly dark when the moon went down - it's a country town. The scope is a 200mm f4 GSO.

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Sweet shot of one of my favourite galaxies. Lots of detail.
Love it.

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Thanks Greg. it sure is a really beautiful galaxy

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Yes, nice shot Ray, especially considering the rush job on the scope
Thanks very much David.

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That is a really great image, Ray. One that I would be really proud of if it were mine.
Glad you had the ability to put all your equipment together and produce something for us to see.
Allan
Thanks Allan . despite the mad scramble to get the system working, I was very pleased to get this image.

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Watch you talkin'bout Willis that's excellent, the scope looks like it was working bloody perfectly great result...now getting the colour right on this one is a different story though

Mike
Colour hmmm - I doubt that stars will register properly - the bright ones here have been somewhat reconstituted. Have some really bad colour data from a 5 arc sec night so maybe will give it a go.

The imaging system really was far from perfect and I had to nurse it along with refocusing every few frames to keep the astigmatism buried in the seeing disk. But it worked just well enough .

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Old 07-02-2014, 01:12 AM
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A very good NGC 2997 there Ray. It's a deceptively tough galaxy.

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Old 07-02-2014, 04:56 AM
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The grayscale is quite lovely.
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:23 AM
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- the bright ones here have been somewhat reconstituted.
Ah, how was that done?


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Have some really bad colour data from a 5 arc sec night so maybe will give it a go.
Yes RGB data can be crapolla and you can still get a good LRGB combine, as was the case with my recent NGC 2207 in Canis Major, after all, a common technique is to Gaussian blur the RGB before the LRGB combine anyway
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That looks really good Ray.
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The grayscale is quite lovely.
Agreed, colour is an unnecessary and obsessive nuance anyway, hey John?
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Hi Ray,
Love your image, lots of detail from core to galaxy arms.
I would like to see what will the color look like.

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Love it Ray!

How far off is your 10" ?
Can't wait to see what resolution you get from it.

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A very good NGC 2997 there Ray. It's a deceptively tough galaxy.

Cheers

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thanks very much Steve. it is a very pretty galaxy though - your image was great.

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The grayscale is quite lovely.
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Ah, how was that done?



Yes RGB data can be crapolla and you can still get a good LRGB combine, as was the case with my recent NGC 2207 in Canis Major, after all, a common technique is to Gaussian blur the RGB before the LRGB combine anyway
yes will give it a go

StarTools has a couple of ways to tidy up stars. Doesn't make up any new data, but just re-arranges it so that stars are closer to circular. I don't use it often, because it can look a bit artificial, but it can sometimes rescue otherwise valuable images.

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That looks really good Ray.
Hi Marc - thanks

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Hi Ray,
Love your image, lots of detail from core to galaxy arms.
I would like to see what will the color look like.

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Thanks David, will do.

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Love it Ray!

How far off is your 10" ?
Can't wait to see what resolution you get from it.

Cheers,

Justin.
Thanks Justin. took the first coma-uncorrected image from the 10 inch last night - the Skywatcher optics are not quite as well corrected as the GSO, but should still be way more than good enough. I expect that the resolution will be the same as the 8 inch most of the time - determined entirely by the atmosphere. However, on those rare excellent nights, the 10 inch may do a little better - we shall see. The main advantage of the bigger scope is the CF tube, which should ease focusing problems a little and is definitely very rigid and stable - should do a better job of keep things in collimation.

regards Ray

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That's a very impressive image for a "first light," problems or not! Bravo.

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Great result Ray..
What coma corrector do you use with this system?

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StarTools has a couple of ways to tidy up stars. Doesn't make up any new data, but just re-arranges it so that stars are closer to circular. I don't use it often, because it can look a bit artificial, but it can sometimes rescue otherwise valuable images.

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Ah yes I see it now...still, not too bad really

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That's a very impressive image for a "first light," problems or not! Bravo.

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thanks very much Peter.

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Great result Ray..
What coma corrector do you use with this system?

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Hi Maurice. I use an RCC1 - works pretty well at f4

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Ah yes I see it now...still, not too bad really

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well I tried the colour data - the modified stars are displaced enough to upset the registration process and it looks pretty crook. mono it will remain.

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