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Old 02-07-2013, 08:13 PM
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3rd Saturn

This was taken last night. Afocal, Canon a590is, with 10 inch Skywatcher Dobsonian (non goto, no tracking either!), 6mm TMB II with televue 2x barlow, and 4x optical zoom. Does that make a magnification of 1600?

Stacked 20% of 2082 frames. I didn't think I had the patience for another go, but the seeing seemed pretty good last night. It took me about 40 minutes to get 2082 useable frames. I am thinking of the lazy susan dob mod to make it easier to move the tiny increments that are required!
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Wow that is incredible!
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:21 PM
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Thanks Peter. I have since reprocessed the same image. I think the detail is a little better in this one.
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Wow thats awesome! A million times better than any of my attempts.
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Good grief that's a wonderful image to be taken a-focally! Well done and thanks for sharing!
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Well done!
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This Saturn looks great, love the color, ring detail and bands.
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Old 17-07-2013, 12:11 PM
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This was taken last night. Afocal, Canon a590is, with 10 inch Skywatcher Dobsonian (non goto, no tracking either!), 6mm TMB II with televue 2x barlow, and 4x optical zoom. Does that make a magnification of 1600?

Stacked 20% of 2082 frames. I didn't think I had the patience for another go, but the seeing seemed pretty good last night. It took me about 40 minutes to get 2082 useable frames. I am thinking of the lazy susan dob mod to make it easier to move the tiny increments that are required!

That is really beautiful!
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:03 AM
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really nice pic! as discussed on another thread, this photo has inspired me to have a crack!

it is amazing what one can do with a point and shoot these days.

just to be a PITA....

the 590 has 4x optical zoom, but starts at a wider angle than your eyes.
the 35mm equivalent is 35-140mm - and your eyes see roughly the equivalent of 50mm...

so max magnification on this camera is approx 2.8x.

cheers, and keep up the great work!
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:53 PM
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Amazing to.see what can be done with what you have.
Great job.!
Cheers bigjoe.
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impressive that!
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Old 07-08-2013, 03:31 PM
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How do you stack the 2082 frames, What software did you use? & What camera setting did you use?
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:32 PM
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come to think of it - good question.....

since your dob is unguided...i'd imagine you'd have to take
several dozen clips with the planet moving through the field of view....

derkraken - how does something like registax cope with this?

how do you do it ? (i only use about 600 frames from one pass of 20 seconds)
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:36 PM
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Thanks for all the comments!

Sharkbite - you're right, I had to take a lot of clips with the planet moving through the field of view.

I used avidemux to join all those clips into one long clip, and then edited that long clip to remove all the unusable frames (those that were obviously blurred, or not fully in the frame).

I then used a program called Castrator to centre and crop the resulting footage. Next I used Autostakkert to stack the images.

I did not use Registax to stack the images. I only used the wavelets function in Registax to process the stacked image from Autostakkert.

Finally I used image analyzer to adjust the white balance, contrast and brightness. I also sharpened and smoothed it.

All the above is in respect of the image in post 3 of this thread. I did far less post processing of this image than I did for any of the previous images that I posted.

At that magnification manipulating the dob mount so that Saturn drifted through the field of view was very very difficult. IIRC the longest usable clip was only 5 seconds, and most were shorter. There were very many clips of blank space!

Pinwheel - I don't have any settings for video on that camera (other than choosing what resolution it records in). I recorded it in the highest resolution available, 640x480 (at 20 fps), with 4x optical zoom.

Sharkbite - thanks for explaining the maximum magnification! I suppose that means the magnification was 1120x?

I'm looking forward to getting my first image of Jupiter!
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Old 13-08-2013, 01:00 PM
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nicely nicely....

i went another way....

since the camera shuts down after a minute if you leave it,
and memory is cheap...

i just left the thing running, and cut out the blank or useless bits
using freemake.

Registax had a cow at this - would only track for one pass.

tried castrator on the weekend - what a difference!
got to use the whole 2-3 minutes of "useful" video...

unfortunately the weather has not been as good since the night i dd the 1st effort, so the results were not as good - but like you o can't wait for jupiter to pop by...

cheers,
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Old 13-08-2013, 03:53 PM
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Now you mention it, the first time (for the pics in the 1st Saturn thread) I took a whole series of clips and joined them, for the 3rd Saturn I left the camera running and got one long clip (about 25 minutes IIRC) which I edited in avidemux!

It was definitely much easier that way - my camera also shuts itself off after one minute. Infuriating, when I had just about got the telescope in position for a pass through. Also, when I turn it back on I have to go through the rigmarole of setting it back to manual focusing and then refocusing it.
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Old 21-08-2013, 09:22 AM
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Great photo, there's definitely nicer detail in the second processed image. Thanks for sharing how you processed it
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