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Old 05-06-2013, 08:23 AM
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Blue Mountains - Katoomba Airfield 8th June?

Hey all,

Just wondering if Katoomba Airfield meet is on this Saturday 8th June? Weather permitting of course.

Can anyone confirm?

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Old 05-06-2013, 10:47 AM
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I am keen for this as well.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:15 AM
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I'm keen, fingers are crossed for the weather.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:12 PM
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Well have to see if Alex or Peter can get permission from the Airfields owner first.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:15 PM
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Is Sunday a possibility instead or does it have to be a Saturday?
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:50 PM
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Is Sunday a possibility instead or does it have to be a Saturday?
Well we often stay out to 2 AM. Which is fine on a Saturday night. Doesn't work when there is work the next day.
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:07 PM
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Saturday the 9th is ideal for me but sunday is a maybe. Its a new moon on Saturday too. If we cant get access to the airfield, anyone wanna head to Hargraves lookout?

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Well we often stay out to 2 AM. Which is fine on a Saturday night. Doesn't work when there is work the next day.
Its the long weekend this weekend.. you working on Queens bday?
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:07 PM
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Neither Peter or I can make it this Saturday, which is why no thread was started for June. Next Airfield session that's in the pipeline is for July.

There's two places that are used as an alternative site when the Airfield isn't available. Both are accessed via Blackheath, just down the HWY from Medlow Bath. In order of preference:

1: Mt Blackheath Lookout. More sheltered than the second pref below, but eastern sky more obscured by trees. Has a VERY welcome fireplace. Set up is done next to your car.

2: Hargraves Lookout. Very dark, great expanse of sky, has a fireplace too behind the shelter, but very exposed to wind as it sits on a spur overlooking the valley below making it a bloody freezing proposition if ANY wind blowing from the west. Also, the observing site is located some 25m away from the parking area meaning you need to cart all your gear over soft gravel.

Just note that big Roos are common around this area, & care needs to be taken getting to & from either site - I nearly collected a big bruiser last time I was at Mt Blackheath Lookout. Scared the heeby geebies out of me.

Sorry to those of you who would have liked to go to the Airfield this month.
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Old 05-06-2013, 02:57 PM
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Sigh... can't make it on Saturday due to other commitments.
Also the weather forecast looks doubtful at this stage.

I have Sunday night free if anyone is inclined to try and the weather obliges, either Hargraves, Mt Blackheath or possibly table rock at Kings Tableland (just before Wentworth Falls). My preference is Mt Blackheath as there's a fireplace and plenty of fuel lying around.

And yes as Alex indicated, go easy driving on Shipley Plateau, there are plenty of big roos, wombats as well as kids on horses, as well as 4WD's towing horse floats on the narrow road.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:42 PM
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Ah forgot about the public holiday. Sunday night at Hargraves would be alright since Saturdays weather forecast looks average.
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I'm up for this - I've dragged the scope all the way from London so far this week so I'm determined it should get some use

Not wanting to go too far OT but could anyone give me some DOs and DONTs... for driving, dealing with nature as much as observing group etiquette? Fresh off the plane, I've got me a Mini and a satnav... and a fear of pretty much anything that has 8 legs or no legs
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Hi Doug, see map attached.

Go/nogo decision best around midday and certainly no later than 3pm as most of us would leave then to arrive soon after sunset. There is a webcam at Katoomba, on this site http://www.scenicworld.com.au/?optio...pper&Itemid=44 so you can get a look at the sky first hand if there is any doubt.
Coordinates of the yellow pins:

Mt Blackheath: -33° 38' 39", 150° 14' 43"
Hargraves Lookout: -33° 40' 37", 150° 14' 43"
Katoomba Airstrip: -33° 40' 07", 150° 19' 09"

To Katoomba Airstrip, follow the Great Western Highway west to Medlow Bath. As the highway goes over the railway line turn right to the station and follow this road along the train line, at the end there is a left turn signposted "airstrip". It turns to dirt for the last couple of km and there are potholes, so take it easy.

To Mt Blackheath and Hargraves lookout, continue on the highway to Blackheath. At the traffic lights, turn left (over the train line) then left again (Station St). Follow signs saying "Shipley Plateau". For the first time to Hargraves or Mt Blackheath its perhaps easier to meet at the carpark behind the Ivanhoe hotel in Blackheath (this is a pub at the traffic lights) and go from there. As Alex indicated there are some big kangaroos and wombats, and at night these are a real hazard so drive slowly once on the plateau.

Winter nighttime temps are often down to -6 degrees so at this time of year you will need thermals, beanie, gloves and a balaclava, or ski gear is good, or a freezer suit. A thermos of coffee and a snack is a good idea before driving home. In the interests of safe driving, my usual habit is to either pack up and be on the road home by midnight, or else be prepared to stay and have a few hours sleep before driving home at sunrise. Mt Blackheath has bush fireplaces and plenty of fuel at arms length so its feasible to have a fire in winter to warm up and make a brew, if someone has matches and something to start it. There is a fireplace at Hargraves but no firewood (has to be dragged quite some distance).

Its also not a bad idea to stop for dinner en-route. The main places of interest are:
- Katoomba, several cafes if you are happy to sit down;
- Wentworth Falls, the 'Grand Olive' pizza shop,
- Blackheath, the Ivanhoe serves a great counter meal around $15 opening at 6pm sharp.

Note also that in Sydney, a holiday weekend also means the police will be out in full force looking for anyone they can fine, and the penalties here are really really savage, so obey speed limits even if it is 3am.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:41 PM
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Great! Thanks for all the info. I've got clearance so can be ready to go by midday.

Fortunately I managed to pack my layers used this past winter in the UK into the case, so hopefully that should keep me warm enough. Only one way to find out for sure!
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:25 AM
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PS here's the sunset view from Hargraves (this pano spans east, south and west)...
http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/73...mountains-pano
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:31 AM
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Wow! If that's the designated viewing site (weather permitting!) then it looks like I might want to get there a little before sunset to take some pics
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:15 PM
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Thanks for the info Wavytone

Now we need to decide which day, and which location?
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:19 PM
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Can't go Saturday, other commitments.

The BOM satellite photo does not look promising either at this stage - lots of cloud. Sunday night might be OK but I wouldn't make any decisions till after lunch.
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I don't mind either site or day. But I am leaning more to Sunday as that might be the best considering the weather, plus it looks like more people are free on Sunday night anyway. Probably also prefer Hargraves, but not too bothered. Just want some time under a dark sky.
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Old 07-06-2013, 03:24 PM
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Im good for Sunday now. I dont mind either Hargraves or Blackheath lookout, they are only 6km apart.
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Not going to make it this time, no matter which night it is...
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