EQ6 holding capacity

iceman (Mike) · #1 19-05-2006, 07:21 AM

Hi guys.

How much can an EQ6 hold?

Just thinking of in the future, could it hold a C11 or C14, or a 12" or 16" truss newt?

If not, what mount could hold those?

Thanks

h0ughy (David) · #2 19-05-2006, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceman

Hi guys.

How much can an EQ6 hold?

Just thinking of in the future, could it hold a C11 or C14, or a 12" or 16" truss newt?

If not, what mount could hold those?

Thanks

Paramount ME, and that new meade mount could!!!!

the eq6 will hold 20kg very well, and maybe up to 25KG, I have had the c8, the ED80 and the M500 all on the mount at the same time with the canon camera, 2 2" WO diagonals, 1 17" nagler and a 24MM 2" ultrawide Meade EP, 50mm finder scope and 3 5kg weights. I would not reccommend a large scope over 10" newt, as the wind would buffet it too much, and it wont dampen out shakes too quickly.

So a seed has been planted Mike has it????

[1ponders] (Paul) · #3 19-05-2006, 07:43 AM

G11 will hold the C11/14 np. Probably the 12" newt, though consider the lever arm problem. A 16 inch newt might need to go onto a Titan

Not so much the weight, though that will be substantial, more the lever arm again.

I'm hoping Nightshift will by some rings for that new little red corvette he has so I can see how it goes on my G11.

davidpretorius · #4 19-05-2006, 10:10 AM

congratulations houghy, as soon as i saw this heading in the list, I knew houghy would be punching the sky!!!

h0ughy (David) · #5 19-05-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by davidpretorius

congratulations houghy, as soon as i saw this heading in the list, I knew houghy would be punching the sky!!!

WOOO HHOOOO

he needs to be converted to the dark side

33South (Chris) · #6 19-05-2006, 01:57 PM

Ive got a C11 (13KGs) on an EQ6 definitely the upper limit once you start adding bits and pieces, thinking a G11 upgrade will be needed for imaging.

I wouldnt like to try anything larger than a 10" in a newt.

A Titan etc. would be nice but need to consider A) cost

B) portability

iceman (Mike) · #7 19-05-2006, 02:06 PM

hmm maybe i'll just stick with the plan to get a big dob driven by servocat then.

davidpretorius · #8 19-05-2006, 04:24 PM

what are we looking at in terms of costs?

eq6
g11
titan

is that the right order??

Also, do many people image with a 16" or bigger mirror?

ving (David) · #9 19-05-2006, 04:33 PM

how can a eq mount hold a truss?

Lester · #10 19-05-2006, 04:39 PM

Hi Mike,

You also need to consider, is the mount going to be out in the open or in a enclosed dome or roll off roof type shelter. The dome will give the most protection. Roll off roof type shed will give less protection, unless you have really high walls, or walls that fold down away from the wind.

I use to mount my 16" f4.5 with 8" SCT Celestron on Goliath mount with no problems. But that is inside an observatory.

[1ponders] (Paul) · #11 19-05-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by davidpretorius

Also, do many people image with a 16" or bigger mirror?

John Drummond does most of his comet chasing using a 16"newt. Check out his setup in the equipment pics thread here or check out Possum Observatory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ving

how can a eq mount hold a truss?

It probably wouldn't hold your standard truss dob ving but if you check out Mark Hodsons 12" truss on an eq6 (second post) you can see the difference.

ving (David) · #12 19-05-2006, 04:54 PM

i see... well that answers that question dont it!
thnx paul

Striker (Tony) · #13 19-05-2006, 04:59 PM

Once you start looking at scopes over the C11 size the mounts needed are extreme such as the Titan or even a lot better the Paramount plus others.

The G11 is great value but anything up from this your really paying big dollars.

The G11 is rated about the same handling weight as the EQ6 but it can take slightly more weight then the EQ6.

I know Bird has put a 13" Newt on his G11 but if your panning on putting Guide scopes and plenty of other accessories needed for DSO's and guiding then 13" is way to big.

Come on Mike....come to the dark side....get that DSLR working on some DSO's.

RB (Andrew) · #14 19-05-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Striker

Come on Mike....come to the dark side....get that DSLR working on some DSO's.

Keep on him Tony, don't let him go until he comes over to the dark side.
Besides I need to get you off my back about selling you the TAK.....

Seriously though Mike, look at the servocat, it might fit your needs better.

gbeal · #15 19-05-2006, 06:15 PM

OK,
my $0.02's worth.
The G-11 will hold a 10" or 12" newt. and as has been pointed out, maybe a 13" (Bird).
BUT....... as far as I can see Bird only has a webcam (OK a flash webcam) on his. Start plonking a guidescope, and imaging system on as well, and the weight packs on.
I myself have used my 10" newt on a G-11, an EM200, and now an AP600E. All worked, but the one thing that has made a difference is the carbon fiber tube lately, reducing the OTA weight from around 14 kilos to about 10.
Don't forget the tube rings as well, and in my case (Vixen) they are very substantial/heavy.
A truss tube may help, but the ServoCat is looking better every day.

Adrian-H · #16 20-05-2006, 12:12 AM

Paramount Me can hold up to 50kgs aprox, and the Meade Max, up to 200kgs aprox, personally if i had the kinda money to buy myself a high end Losmandy Mount, i would just save 40% more and get myself eather the Meade Max or the Paramount Me, cause with one of those mounts, they blow the Losmandy away, plus youll never have to buy another mount again. but, i dont have that kinda money. same thoughts as h0ughy most likey..

you know you wannt to join the dark side..
we have.... candy... and cookies too!

33South (Chris) · #17 20-05-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by davidpretorius

what are we looking at in terms of costs?
eq6
g11
titan

Approx costs in Australia

eq6 A$ 2299 (Andrews, includes SynScan goto)
g8 A$ 2,600 (ATS)
g11 A$ 5,500 (ATS)
titan A$ 12,500 (ATS)

for the Losmany theres an extra $3,500 for the gemini computerized goto
and the Titan comes withour pier/tripod

http://www.andrewscom.com.au/site-section-10.htm
http://www.atscope.com.au/losmandy.html

Have I interpreted the pricing correctly ?

[1ponders] (Paul) · #18 20-05-2006, 11:03 AM

Hi Chris

The G11 is advertised as $5000 with the Gemini. http://www.atscope.com.au/g11.html (though Peter Ward may not have updated the price for the new Level 4 Gemini)
Gemini is used to be around $1500 extra for the GM8. That new price is crazy when you can get it from OPT to here for about half the price. I can't see how he will sell the Gemini for $3500, even if it comes with a palm pilot (which it doesn't).

The Titan should come standard with the Level 3 Gemini.

Mike forget the Gemini. Get some encoders and a AN. Then you can use computer guidance either setup as a dob or setup for imaging on a EQ (Losmandy or whatever)

JohnG (John) · #19 20-05-2006, 11:03 AM

Those prices quoted are:

GM-8 without Gemini

G-11 with Gemini

G-11 without Gemini, $3500

Titan, comes standard with Gemini.

Gemini System by itself, about $1500 AUD

JohnG

Starkler (Geoff) · #20 20-05-2006, 11:23 AM

Another rarely mentioned option that could be manufactured for a truss scope is a split ring equatorial mount.