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Old 17-05-2012, 10:08 AM
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Tuesday night I went down to the obs and had a plan to work more on NGC6357 and maybe do Omega Centauri while waiting for the former to rise.

Murphy had other plans though. It seems that separated oil from the worm gear had rolled down the back of the RA gear again and got caught in the homing sensor. This PME has tested my patience and continues to do so. To clean the homing sensor I had to disturb the polar alignment by moving the altitude to its upper most limit. I then pulled the motor off and cleaned the gear and sensor, well at least I thought so. I put it all back together and did a PA tpoint model three times to get alignment and then start a larger model for pointing only for the mount to stop again when it crossed the meridian. I then repeat the procedure of cleaning and once again do another model only for the mount to stop again. On the fourth occassion I was quietly seething. Peter who was visiting was most helpful in holding the torch and got to see first hand what the bowels of a PME looks like. In the end I got the entire gear clean again (I do wonder if this will happen again next year after our hot summers) and even got my PA better than before with Hadar falling dead center of the image and even got 3 hours of data on the Eagle Nebula.

This Ha image is a 100% crop of the central part of the image. Lots more data will be needed to complete the image as a combine of the OIII and SII is quite noisey, however for now I am glad of the mount to be working and pointing well.
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Old 17-05-2012, 11:07 AM
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Old 17-05-2012, 01:28 PM
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Which scope gave you such a nice image?
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Old 17-05-2012, 02:06 PM
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Thank Peeps,

Allan this is the TSA 102. Still waiting for my target to rise early enough for the 12" RC.
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Old 17-05-2012, 02:50 PM
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Great detail Paul. Really interesting composition which is quite arresting. Look forward to the completed project. Craig
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Old 17-05-2012, 02:56 PM
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After that start you must have been happy to get anything!

Nice start on the Eagles Nest

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Old 17-05-2012, 03:00 PM
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Allan this is the TSA 102. Still waiting for my target to rise early enough for the 12" RC.
You are just such a tease
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Old 17-05-2012, 03:09 PM
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After that start you must have been happy to get anything!

Nice start on the Eagles Nest

Mike
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Good thing I can get my hands into the mount easy enough. I am considering sending the mount back to the States for a service.

Sorry Allan. I want to get the RC up and imaging and yes it has been a year, but I promise it will be soon.
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Old 17-05-2012, 07:26 PM
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Nice image Paul, I didnt mind holding the torch. I think this one will be a cracker when you introduce the other data to it.
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Old 17-05-2012, 08:17 PM
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Yes part technician, part artist, part scientist that's what it takes in this pursuit.

You did well to get it working beyond the point of most people's tolerance.

I guess its part of this to every now and then spend a large amount of imaging time tracking down problems and solving them.

A great Ha as a reward for your efforts.

Is your observatory insulated?

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Old 17-05-2012, 09:41 PM
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thank Peter,

Greg, no insulation but there is heaps at the house in bags. R3 polyester and ready to go in. I might have to consider putting it in this year.
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Old 17-05-2012, 09:46 PM
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Very nice!
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Old 17-05-2012, 09:48 PM
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A really nice photo Paul.

Great detail and tones.

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Old 18-05-2012, 02:44 PM
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Paul,

Sorry to hear about your issues with the PME, glad you got it sorted at then end.

Although I am not as familiar with the inside of the PME as you Paul, I would probably say that the issues you are having may be to do with the fact that you are either using the wrong grease, or simply just too much of it. It really does not need a lot.

I have had my PME running in Arkaroola since Oct 2011, going from Spring to Summer to Autumn. Upon my last visit in March I inspected the worm gears and grease levels etc and all was good. The mount moved flawlessly and there was certainly no indication the grease was melting away etc. The temperature was in excess of 43 degrees up there on a number of occassions. I was also surprised to see very little dust on the mount.

You are also assuming that the cause of your woes is a dirty sensor due to the grease, given that you had to repeat the process three times without success makes me think there is something else at play here.

Dont discount software causes for this problem, check your software for any limits you may have invoked. Does the problem always occur in the same gear position?

Anyways, good luck and lets hope your last attempt has licked this thing in the butt.

BTW, nice eagle!

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Old 18-05-2012, 04:19 PM
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Thanks guys for the comments.

Mark, I have not regreased the mount since shortly after purchase. I did use a liberal amount but not excessive. Well at least I thought so. I did try to follow the tutorial on regreasing on you tube, but being my first time I might have put just a bit too much. The grease I am using is the one recommended by SB that being lubriplate 105 grease. I have seen this before up at Moorook where there was grease dripping out on a warm day of at least 10 mounts.

Your mount is relatively new and you most likely have not regreased yet from factory setup, so you should not have too many dramas yet.

Each time I cleaned the sensor there was oil from the grease. It must roll down the inside face of the wheel and onto parts of the wheel that are read by the sensor, an easy enough task with these mounts I think.

Limits are not an issue, non set, only hard stop. Each time this has happened it is in a different position. However I am not discounting the fact that the homing sensor migh be at fault, that does happen and I don't really know how old this mount is. Perhaps Ken could shed some light on this?

If it happens again I will need to think about other options to solve the problem. Until then let's hope nothing else can go wrong.
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Old 18-05-2012, 04:30 PM
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Very nice and the FOV is great for this target IMHO
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A real sharp shot with heaps of fine details. Very cool.
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