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11-08-2011, 06:49 PM
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only on weekends
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: pioneer bay. vic
Posts: 65
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sad
i have been a member of this great web site for a while now and i am sad at the trend it appears to be going (for me), when i joined the threads appeared to be open , happy and basically non judgemental, hey even a novice like myself didnt feel out of place talking to way more experienced folks.
But i gotta say with somethings getting written makes me feel kind of stupid, feel like im either left or right or uneducated, not a good feeling.
Im sorry I kinda find it hard to articulate what i am saying, i think some are losing what "i thought ISS was about" heck i am probably the one making the mistake!
Im not giving up on the web site, just keep watching it to see if it is a "phase" but seriously i lose most things half way through (im sure i am the only one) but please ease up we are not all fess heads!
have fun
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11-08-2011, 06:52 PM
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Buddhist Astronomer
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Phillip Island,VIC, Australia
Posts: 4,073
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Well said
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11-08-2011, 06:54 PM
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IIS Member #671
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 11,159
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We absolutely need more carbon tax threads. This is what this site is about, after all.
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11-08-2011, 06:58 PM
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only on weekends
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: pioneer bay. vic
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tis carbon dioxide if im not completely stupid, but seriously that isnt the only reason
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11-08-2011, 07:05 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,628
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Octane
We absolutely need more carbon tax threads. This is what this site is about, after all.
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LOL! This forum needs a like button on such quotes.....
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11-08-2011, 07:16 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: perth w.a.
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iss is also about discussion, we have and rightly so, had a religion discussion that got way out of hand before the moderators closed it,of course the carbon issue got a few heckles up, we had a an astronomy / astrology discussion and of course the obligatory football code discussion
you manage to see some respectable people in this community with very strange but often interesting minds with the strangest views
but hey thats what its all about
the london riot one right now is very interesting, some very strange views on it, i am glad some of these people were not my parents!
pat
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11-08-2011, 07:23 PM
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only on weekends
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: pioneer bay. vic
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the problem isnt about difference of opinion it is about the way it is delivered! both sides of an idea used to put their sides across without prejudice, it was a fair and balanced input, now it is taking sides to the extreme. Insults fly, it is no longer about ones idea or thought it is a open slather of the opposition. Seriously i wouldnt want to put my 2cents worth up for debate!
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11-08-2011, 07:37 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 8,277
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Conversations about any topic between adults especially on this forum should be conducted with humility, respect and in good humour.
If you don't agree with someone's point of view say so in a polite succinct way but do not resort to name calling and inuendo.
Take a deep breath before responding but
I'll still respect you in the morning 
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11-08-2011, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Monto
Posts: 16,741
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Yep, agreed.
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11-08-2011, 08:42 PM
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Sir Post a Lot!
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia
Posts: 36,799
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luvmybourbon
the problem isnt about difference of opinion it is about the way it is delivered! both sides of an idea used to put their sides across without prejudice, it was a fair and balanced input, now it is taking sides to the extreme. Insults fly, it is no longer about ones idea or thought it is a open slather of the opposition. Seriously i wouldnt want to put my 2cents worth up for debate!
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If something is outrightly offensive or personally attacking, use the 'report bad post' button to bring it to the attention of the moderators.
The moderators don't read every single post of every single thread. Especially the really long ones that just end up with a minority of people repeating themselves or going over the same arguments.
If you don't like what you're reading, just ignore that thread.
If you genuinely don't like someone's point of view on a consistent basis, put them on your ignore list and you won't see any posts from them again.
You have to remember that those threads that you don't like are the minority, and are the views of a very small number of people. It's really easy to just ignore them, don't click on them, and don't let it ruin your IIS experience. You can't judge the whole forum experience from the actions of a minority.
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11-08-2011, 08:55 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Ormeau Gold Coast
Posts: 2,067
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I have to admit, I've mentioned before that it can be a bit intimidating here.
It's difficult to be light hearted and any time you pop in a bit of fun, someone takes umbrage.
I sometimes tell myself I won't comeback, but I do because I want to learn
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11-08-2011, 08:58 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Warragul, Vic
Posts: 4,494
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luvmybourbon
But i gotta say with somethings getting written makes me feel kind of stupid, feel like im either left or right or uneducated, not a good feeling.
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It's easy to feel inadequate in the presence of others who seem smarter, but IQ or level of education are not good measures of a person's worth I think.
If you have self respect and care about others you've got most of what it takes to be a worthwhile human being. (IMHO)
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11-08-2011, 08:58 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Monto
Posts: 16,741
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Yes, I think we all go through stages like that Jen.
I'll back away for a while, go invisible.
And come back when I feel better.
They really are a great crowd in here.
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11-08-2011, 11:22 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 491
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I've been too chicken to post for fear of saying something silly, but I'll pipe in now to say.... though it all seems a bit intimidating as a brand spanking new backyard astronomer, i look forward to learning lots more!
Mishku
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12-08-2011, 12:12 AM
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IIS Member #671
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 11,159
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Welcome aboard, mishku.
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12-08-2011, 12:20 AM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,013
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Hi Mishku and a big warm welcome to IIS forums!
Please do not feel intimidated...all of us have started along a similar path to enjoy what Astronomy has to offer.
We all learn from each other, and the volume of helpful advice is awesome!
Every question, irrespective of it's content, is important, as it is a first step in gaining knowlege. You are in good company here.
Cheers!
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12-08-2011, 10:06 AM
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No More Infinities
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Townsville
Posts: 9,698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mishku
I've been too chicken to post for fear of saying something silly, but I'll pipe in now to say.... though it all seems a bit intimidating as a brand spanking new backyard astronomer, i look forward to learning lots more!
Mishku
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Yep, I like a little bit of brand spanking every now and then....grabbing an OMO box and slapping it around. Punching out a bottle of cordial or kicking the Corn Flakes around  
Very therapeutic 
Welcome to IIS
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12-08-2011, 10:38 AM
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Registered User
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Melton, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 372
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If the Terms of Service are respected by all this place will be the better for it
I have tried to resist the temptation and ignored some threads, but on occasions I have failed
Yes, I will take the advice I have received from some members and use the report button.
Most of the topics that are in question start of okay, but just a few members will always throw in insulting comments just to stir up trouble.
Cheers 
Richard
ps
I agree with you Luvmybourbon, some members do flaunt their perceived genius and put others down, instead of politely advising the person concerned.
Last edited by richardda1st; 12-08-2011 at 11:30 AM.
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12-08-2011, 11:44 AM
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Gravity does not Suck
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Tabulam
Posts: 17,003
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I promise myself I wont comment but cant help myself sometimes and say stuff and raise an alternative view point.
I try to just check the photos new developments etc. but I get tempted. I dont like to talk about what gear I am using what photos I take anymore others can do that...
But as Mike said there are tools to use to make the site as perfect as you percieve it to be...
I am probably on more dont read lists than anyone so dont worry about saying something be honest be yourself others can edit you out if they dont like you etc...its no big deal.
There are no dumb questions when you are learning.
alex  
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12-08-2011, 03:15 PM
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only on weekends
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: pioneer bay. vic
Posts: 65
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i have no problems with ISS or anyone on here i just thought the tone a style had changed, While i dont post very often, i often pop in here to see whats happening. I love this web site and love looking at the photos taken (geez how good it would be to have some hanging on the wall) and one day when finances allow i would hope to join the rest of you photographers 
Anyway always remember either be good or be good at it and dont get caught!!!!!!
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