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Old 04-04-2009, 02:13 AM
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how can i become a member of agwa and what benifits do i get out of it

how can i become a member of agwa and what benifits do i get out of it
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:19 AM
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Talking agwa ??

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Really good question! What is the full name of that group, again?

I Google it and got; The Automated Geospatial Watershed Assessment (what ever that actually means), Agwa de Bolivia, or the American Gold Wing Association.

I assume you mean the Art Gallery of Western Australia ?
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:46 AM
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Old 04-04-2009, 12:43 PM
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TJD I am not a member but if you got to the BTOW shop in Malaga off Holder Way, you can join there.

Or you can find more details here

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Old 04-04-2009, 01:08 PM
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So this is the "Astronomical Group of Western Australia (AGWA)."

Is this related to the Astronomical Society of Western Australia at all?

Iceman, your link of club listings only has the ASWA and GSAA! Or am I missing something here?
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:13 PM
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No, AGWA are the splitters from ASWA. Best not to mention both in the same breath!
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Old 04-04-2009, 06:57 PM
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No, AGWA are the splitters from ASWA. Best not to mention both in the same breath!
Oh dear. I did know that. Oops!
I have do quite a few nice amateur astronomy friends in the Western Australia, but I don't know which Society they are in now. Of all the Societies in Australia, I always though they had the highest proportion of the loveliest and prettiest lady amateur astronomers.
All this time I thought they were not scarred by such problems. Hope one day they all shake hands and celebrate our wonderful southern skies together.

Suppose I be careful from now on - so thanks for the advice.
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Old 04-04-2009, 07:33 PM
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It all happened before I joined ASWA but I do know what happened. Although I'm biased and would love everyone to join ASWA and make it a force to be reckoned with I know ASWA may not be everyone's cup of tea and must allow for different personalities; the mention of an alternative group is usually done as quietly as possible, however.
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:59 AM
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Why, may I ask?
We have 2 in Wollongong.
Us 'n "them".
We don't have any animosity towards "them", nor "they" to us.
Nice 'n quiet all round.
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:48 AM
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It all happened before I joined ASWA but I do know what happened. Although I'm biased and would love everyone to join ASWA and make it a force to be reckoned with I know ASWA may not be everyone's cup of tea and must allow for different personalities; the mention of an alternative group is usually done as quietly as possible, however.
Pretty much the reason why I won't join clubs anymore. Sooner or latter someone drops their lip and leaves the sandpit taking their bat and ball with them. Biggest problem is that it always leaves a sour taste in everyones mouth.

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Old 05-04-2009, 04:30 PM
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Pretty much the reason why I won't join clubs anymore. Sooner or latter someone drops their lip and leaves the sandpit taking thier bat and ball with them. Biggest problem is that it always leaves a sour taste in everyones mouth.

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Maybe all those of us that don't like clubs should start a club... haha

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First order of business at first AGM: Dissociation.
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:45 PM
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Maybe all those of us that don't like clubs should start a club... haha

Founding member of CACA (Club Avoiders Club of Australia)
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First order of business at first AGM: Dissociation.
Absolutely. I think the first rule passed should ban all members from any contact what so ever to ensure club harmony is maintained .

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Old 06-04-2009, 12:20 AM
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Hi guys,

As Groucho Marx once said "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member!".

Seriously, the yearbook has separate entries and contact details for both the AGWA and ASWA. You can also get links to websites from the Quasar Publishing page:

http://www.quasarastronomy.com.au/society.htm

YOu will notice the AGWA have close links to the Binocular Telescope and Optical World (astro shop).

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Old 06-04-2009, 12:46 AM
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could we call ourselves AA (Astronomers Anonymous)
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:30 AM
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Angry Pity them, I truly do...

I've been generally thinking of these now two Western Australian groups over the weekend, and have come to the unusual conclusion that I feel sorry for both of them!

God, I'm really beginning to truly hate the formal institutions known as amateur astronomical societies with absolute disdaining passion!

When I look at some members of some Astronomical Society I no longer look at their astronomical parlance nor their particular abilities. I now negatively look at their possible political aspirations, their gruesome potential for partaking or fleecing one's personal finances, and the degradation of displays of unfettered power over the unwilling victims that make up its own membership.

After reading and digesting the now sad spilt within the once proud WA Society - an example of the pinnacle zenith of the virtues of values and sophistication in Australian amateur astronomy, I can only conclude the idealistic form of the nice astronomical society is frankly stuffed!

It seems now is clear that no decent astronomical society in Australia (or beyond its shores) is capable of surviving of some "battle of wills" in what is supposed to be the true "universal" science.
After 35 years of suffering, I just refuse to play this stupid game anymore!
In the end, in my own Society of ONE solitary member is now all that I need to sustain me!
Note: Thank the Maker!!, for sites like this one, whom, for all its sometimes odd peculiarities and foibles, at least gives individuals to act and speak on a level playing field!
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Old 06-04-2009, 01:40 AM
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In the end, in my own Society of ONE solitary member is now all that I need to sustain me! *
I should have called it the "Enchilada Astronomical Society" or EAS !!
* New membership forms for this exclusive club are now available on Nix, which is currently orbiting Pluto! (Good luck in retrieving it!)
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:00 AM
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Trev,

There's a weekly meeting coming up this Tues night at Malaga, if you wanted to tag along. I believe there will be a speaker there from Curtin University re: SKA Project

Give Keith at BTOW a call for more info.
That page 'scarper' listed hasnt been updated for a while, though the email addresses listed are still current as far as I know.
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:42 AM
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Should I Stay or Should I Go?

Open Unbiassed Opinion of the AGWA

I do like the concept of user pays per meeting - quite innovative if you ask me. I.e. "The cost for attending the meetings is $3.00 members and $5.00 visitor.", and that membership is "Email only membership is free!" (Gets rid of the riff-raff and other unwanted people, probably. Example of selective membership - Royal Astronomical Society in England is a good example)
I also like the fact that there is a so-called "AGWA's MSN GROUP", including the fact that; "The MSN Groups service has closed" on October 23 2008.
Also notice the fact that the Astronomical Group of Western Australia (AGWA) is seemingly frightened to mention its name - even in jest.
Trev, really honestly, I suggest you checkout this group before joining and see what they are about first. (Applicable to all astronomical societies world-wide.) If you like it stay, if not, then I'd give it a miss!
Regardless, please tell us what you think.

Note; At least in the linked page they say and invite others by saying; "Visitors and guests are always welcome to join us in these activities just talk to an AGWA member. " Take 'em up on it, please!!
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:03 AM
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Founding member of CACA (Club Avoiders Club of Australia)
Please do not apply for membership as refusal may offend.
First order of business at first AGM: Dissociation.
I suggest you should perhaps join the Radical Section of the Royal Astronomical Society of New Zealand (RSRASNZ). They have their Annual General Meeting and business at some local establishment or bar during the annual RASNZ Conference since 1982, where the only items are opening the meeting, welcoming everyone, then move and second a motion to close the meeting! We then get all and sundry to get on with the serious business of drinking!

Better still, the main Chairperson can only be "someone who resides outside the continent of New Zealand.", and better still, no New Zealander can be a member of the Committee!

I even have been the official chairperson on several occasions myself.
THIS IS THE BEST and MOST DEMOCRATIC ASTRONOMICAL INSTITUTION IN THE WORLD! IMO.
Should we start an Australian Section, I wonder!

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Old 06-04-2009, 08:52 AM
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Hey scarper,
Apologies to TJD, this is off the subject.

Mart, I am intrigued by your name. Would it happen to be of Estonian origin or Finnish?

Why I ask is that my name is Estonian. Until the day I was born my parents had intended to call me Ants. Pronounced Unts. However, Mart Luther a thousand years ago or so, was the founder of the Lutheran Church.

I happened to be born on the anniversary of his birthday. Consequently my name is Mart. (Thankyou Mart Luther). I can't imagine what teasing I may have been subjected to if it were otherwise.

Cheers Marty
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