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Old 11-12-2009, 04:13 PM
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Was anyone fooled by Tiger Woods' clean image?

First let me say that the man has done nothing illegal, and what's his personal life should remain so. So I am not here to discuss his morals.

Secondly, I am not a golfer. The game doesn't really interest me. I can stare through a golf story on the news as if it doesn't exist. But when Tiger Woods received so much media attention during his appearance last month in Melbourne, I started to gain some admiration for him and thought "This bloke is a rare breed. A true professional who conducts himself impeccably" and "what a valued role model for young people".

Not many sports people pass through the world leaving an unblemished record out of their sporting areas, but I thought that Tiger was an exception.

I guess I was fleeced like most of the world! Having said that, it appears that there were a lot of people who know of his behavior and it was all kept underwraps.

Does someone like Tiger have an obligation to his followers?

Are you a golfer? What are your opinions now on Tiger Woods?



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Old 11-12-2009, 04:18 PM
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The last thread about this was deleted because of some very inappropriate comments.

I was almost going to delete this straight away but will give it a chance to see if people can self-moderate.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:19 PM
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Billy Joel wrote a song all about this didn't he??

"The Stranger"

Well we all have a face
That we hide away forever
And we take them out and
Show ourselves
When everyone has gone
Some are satin some are steel
Some are silk and some are leather
They're the faces of the stranger
But we love to try them on

Well we all fall in love
But we disregard the danger
Though we share so many secrets
There are some we never tell
Why were you so surprised
That you never saw the stranger
Did you ever let your lover see
The stranger in yourself?
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:20 PM
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The last thread about this was deleted because of some very inappropriate comments.

I was almost going to delete this straight away but will give it a chance to see if people can self-moderate.
I'll behave myself boss.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:32 PM
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He's an exceptional golfer and will go down in history as one of a kind. He got caught with his pants down. So what? Millions of other blokes did too. Life goes on.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:37 PM
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The last thread about this was deleted because of some very inappropriate comments.

I was almost going to delete this straight away but will give it a chance to see if people can self-moderate.
I have been away, Mike, and had no knowledge of any previous thread.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:44 PM
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Who cares about Tiger Woods?
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I'll say this:

We've all done things we're not proud of. I don't think anyone asks to be held up as a model of humanity or some kind of paragon of 'niceness' or perfection.

There is no doubt Tiger has made a shocking mistake/s. However, I'm still very impressed and respectful of him as a sportsman and there are still many aspects of his persona which appear very likeable.

As a member of the media, I'm often torn by my thoughts and emotions about what to write/say about people who have such a public falling from grace. I'm aware of the juicy, salacious nature of the story which presents itself and how much interest there is from the general public in such a story, which drives my instinct to publish/broadcast it, but as a person I'm also sympathetic to the needs of his family and the man himself to privacy. I'm also only too aware of my own failings.

As a person, it's clear he has 'issues' and he will need to work through those. But I find myself asking 'who are we to judge him'?, particularly when the full story is yet to emerge.

He's so successful, and has been held up as such as 'great guy' it's really just to easy too go to town on him now that he has stumbled. He's such an easy target, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. But it's tough because there are many things about Tiger Woods to like. And at times like these, the challenge is to try and keep the whole man in focus...rather than just the publically vilified cheater.

To be honest, I never really questioned the clean image he had. Now that it's been called into question, it's sort of a relief, actually. After all, who could be so 'perfect'?

He's probably more critical of himself right now than we will ever be. His sense of dignity and pride would be well and truly in the crapper.

I say let him work himself out and see if he can hold his family together....and then he can turn to us to ask for our understanding and forgiveness...if it's important to him.

But I won't be too upset if a full public apology is not forthcoming. There are too many of those anyway these days from insincere celebrities looking for a quick let off the hook.

Nor does he owe me one.
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It's amazing how much time and thought people are willing to devote to "celebrity" worship.
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l agree with Marc, heaps of blokes do it, and women too. appreciate him for the greatest golfer who ever played, his personal life affects him not us. most people have something they don't want the rest of the world to know about so l for one will not judge him one way or another.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:52 PM
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It's amazing how much time and thought people are willing to devote to "celebrity" worship.
This is part of the package. This is why they make and are worth so much money. Brand and marketing. Double edge sword though. They're scrutinised, put on a pedestal, expected to be role models and if they are less than perfect then they're trashed publicly. It's a tough gig to live up to.
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Yes, Marc, I agree. He is certainly not alone here. I cite AFL player Gary Ablett as a local example from a few years ago. Matthew Johns perhaps? As I originally stated, I don't care much for golf or sporting elite in general.

Thanks Zaps for your valued input.

Matt you pose some interesting points, from a media perspective. I also liken these events to say, JFK and his "exploits" and womanising conduct whilst in office (which is well documented), yet most of the American people adored him, albeit not aware of his behaviour at the time. There is a fine line between respecting someone professionally, and also being aware of their moral responsibilities, I guess.
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Great golfer but I've never been one too hero worship nor do I believe any youngster should idolise them or any other person who acheives greatness they should aspire too live by their own moral code judged by the conduct of their parents and peers

he's good at what he doe's and gets paid for it

end of story !!!
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:58 PM
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I like golf. I used to play (at one mad stage) 72 holes a weekend.

I like watching the top guys play, and Tiger is one of them. I'll watch him play golf any day. I couldn't care what he's done off the course - it isn't any of my business. As far as him being a role model - well... maybe he's not going to be that any more for lots of people. There'll be others.
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hey're scrutinised, put on a pedestal, expected to be role models and if they are less than perfect then they're trashed publicly.
It's the idiocy of people with no lives.
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:58 PM
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This is what happens when we idolise the people we do. Sports stars, movie stars and so on. I will idolise the people who cure cancer, conquer fusion, moderate all religions (or eradicate them, that'd be better IMO LOL no offence meant).

In the end, he's just a man, he's stuffed up and the only people who should judge him are his wife and himself, and if he believes in a god, then his god.

Anyone can mistake a mistake, we are human after all. What he will work out further down the road is not how much he's let those around him down, but how much he's let himself down. How he will never feel quiet whole again no matter how much he changes or improves himself. That will be what will hurt him the most. I believe any man can change and I wish him the best as he attempts to repair his life.
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He's got about 10 years of golf left in him, plus a few decades of designing courses.

This is just a bump in the road. I think all will be forgotten in 9 - 12 months.
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Unless of course something else pops up in 9 months time. LOLOL
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Unless of course something else pops up in 9 months time. LOLOL
Should be 3 months for tigers.
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Role models belong in the house. If a parent is a good role model to their children then the children should not need to associate a celebrity as their role model.
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