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05-11-2008, 04:55 PM
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What to buy, suggestions anyone
As you may know Ive parted with my beloved 14er, withdrawal was both sudden and severe..I will have some funds left when the smoke clears, Ive bought a EQ6Pro from Bintel, Now After procuring a 450D Body I only have 1500 left... I'm all ears for any recommendations...
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05-11-2008, 05:06 PM
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Yehaaaa, he is still with us, good news.
I'm sure you will get all sorts of suggestions, but mine is possibly an ED80 style refractor, or a newt of some description, maybe an 8" f4, OR both.
Gary
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05-11-2008, 05:19 PM
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Thankyou Gary, I hope to get lots of suggestions, Portability is important to me this time, so the EQ6 is the most I can physically manage.. Yes a modest start for scopes, in the near future I can always upgrade...
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05-11-2008, 05:25 PM
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Yep, and for portability the 80mm refractor is a great option. This, combined with a longer/bigger newt gives very good bang for buck. 80mm for wide stuff, newt for smaller DSO's. Both cheap to acquire and while they are no R/C imaging machine, they will do most that you want.
Get a good image capture program to go with the Canon, something like Maxim DSLR or Images Plus or whatever, and away you go.
Gary
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05-11-2008, 05:35 PM
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I want to avoid exposed to atmosphere mirrors, the trouble I had to go to protect the 14ers coatings up here.. the Obs was sealed with dehudifier running 24/7 .. are any of these larger cheaper 6" refractors any chop or is the CA unacceptable for semi serious imaging... I was thinking along the lines of a couple of small WO,s if this is the case..that is if the larger cheaper refractors are crap. . Im open to any suggestion really,
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05-11-2008, 05:37 PM
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Got all the s/ware I need Gary.. IP , DSLR, SNPro. Im keeping all that.. 
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05-11-2008, 05:51 PM
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Um, hadn't considered the mirror exposed angle, so if you have to then hang in there with the refractor. I have a used 80mm apo triplet, and while it isn't much chop for galaxies, it is a very forgiving.
Start small/insignificant and go from there. Phil has an ED80 in the For/Sales.
With respect to the bigger achros, I can't really say, but suspect the old axiom exists, you get what you pay for. Can't hurt to try it though, I have been thinking of this myself.
Gary
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05-11-2008, 06:10 PM
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I would be interested from folk that use the bigger Achro,s Gary, as you know due to eyesight issues I don't do visual. and for the most part CA can be minimized digitally after the fact, however there is that other old adage..
You cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear...  .
Anyone elaborate on this...
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05-11-2008, 07:03 PM
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$1500... an Orion 102ED f/7 will fit on that nicely, and you'll have change for a couple of cheap ultrawide eyepieces from Bintel and a camera adapter. I have the same scope and it is nice. Very sharp. And 70% more light gathering power over the 80mm.
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05-11-2008, 07:15 PM
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Narrowfield rules!
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Oh dear Shawn, a mighty 14" to what, wide field ? puke  .
No disrespect to WWs (widefield wooses), but thats a huge down grade .
You may find the WW experience somewhat dissapointing, and you know Im right, deep down .
Keep the the apature/FL dream alive, whatever your choice  .
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05-11-2008, 07:30 PM
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Thanks Wavy and Bass.. It going to be a shock for sure Ill miss the deep stuff..I have thousands of images to play with in the interim. I figure that an EQ6 can handle maybe a 6" APO ..Ive been good all year and Santa must know that.... But im still keen on feedback on the cheaper Achro,s..for imaging ...
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05-11-2008, 08:01 PM
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with the exchange rate the 127ED APO's from china may still be a good bet, will take all of th 1500 though? maybe the ed80 triplet and a 80mm shorttube refractor as a guide scope?
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05-11-2008, 08:16 PM
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Hi Shawn, looks to me like you are waiting for someone with a 6" Achro to talk you into it. As you are going to be using the scope for imaging and not viewing, my 5cents worth is get a good refractor eg APO and for go some aperture to get good images right across the field of view.
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05-11-2008, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lester
Hi Shawn, looks to me like you are waiting for someone with a 6" Achro to talk you into it. As you are going to be using the scope for imaging and not viewing, my 5cents worth is get a good refractor eg APO and for go some aperture to get good images right across the field of view.
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Houghy and Lester, yes I think your right...bite the bullet on a bigger APO, maybe go over budget, but dont tell the war office...
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05-11-2008, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lester
Hi Shawn, looks to me like you are waiting for someone with a 6" Achro to talk you into it. As you are going to be using the scope for imaging and not viewing, my 5cents worth is get a good refractor eg APO and for go some aperture to get good images right across the field of view.
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Read between the lines there Lester, cheers.. I see overtime in my future...
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06-11-2008, 02:38 PM
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ED80 and an 8 inch newt OTA and Baader coma corrector. You can image through either using the other for guiding. Before the $AU collapsed you could reasonably expect to buy all 3 for around $1100
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06-11-2008, 02:59 PM
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Got a second hand ED80 and a Newtonian 5". All up I spent $600.00 for both. Nothing wrong with them. I still get cool pictures (now and then)  The MPCC will set you back around $300.00.
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06-11-2008, 04:00 PM
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Maybe These
Bintel have these options Shawn ... haven't checked anyone else for price comparisons but this seems quite reasonable.
Orion Premium ED 102mm f/7 Refractor $1,299
Orion ShortTube 80mm Refractor $369
Pretty close to your budget !
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11-11-2008, 06:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluescope
Bintel have these options Shawn ... haven't checked anyone else for price comparisons but this seems quite reasonable.
Orion Premium ED 102mm f/7 Refractor $1,299
Orion ShortTube 80mm Refractor $369
Pretty close to your budget !
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This pretty much what Ive settled on, I thank you all for your suggestions...
Shawn
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11-11-2008, 10:30 PM
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You will love the 102ED f/7
Mine has exceeded my expectations, you will love it. I can see why people get addicted to these short refractors.
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