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Old 20-02-2024, 10:08 AM
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Cool ANU researchers discover fastest-growing black hole ever recordred

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Australian National University researchers have discovered the fastest-growing black hole ever recorded, with a mass roughly 17 billion times that of our solar system's Sun.

The supermassive black hole exists within quasar J0529-435, which researchers discovered is also the most luminous known thing being continually powered in the universe.

Researchers hypothesise the black hole is growing to near the proposed upper limit of mass for a star or an accretion disk, but further research and observations of its growth rate are needed to confirm that.
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Lead author and ANU Associate Professor, Christian Wolf, said the black hole is indeed creating matter from its environment, and consuming a lot to do so.

"This black hole eats as much mass in a single day as there is in our entire solar system – the Sun and all the planets combined," he said.

"The accretion disk [the holding pattern for all the material waiting to be devoured] is so massive and dense and hot that it starts glowing brightly, and that's the light that we see.

"It's a lot of light that comes out of that accretion disk, about 500 trillion times the amount of light that our Sun emits, or about 20,000 times the amount of light that our entire Milky Way galaxy – with all its billions of stars – emits."

Professor Wolf said the quasar's accretion disk was incredibly big, being seven light years in diameter — 1.5 times the distance from our solar system to the next star in the sky, Alpha Centauri.
Story at ABC here :-
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-...arch/103486262

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Wow, incredible story. Hadn't seen that, intriguing and interesting. Thanks for the link.
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Thanks Gary, I managed to track this down last night from Brisbane.

Here is an image of the Quasar J0529-4351 taken from our back garden in Brisbane on Mon 20th Feb 2024.
  • Tak Mewlon 210 F11.5
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  • ZWO ASI2600MM Pro Camera

59 frames x 60 secs exposures.

The Sky X Pro shows this as a Gaia DR3 Star: 4805642240389045632

Pictor
RA (2000.0): 05h 29m 13.8078s
Dec (2000.0): -43° 51' 55.546"

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Thanks Dennis! That was quick! Fabulous!


"The accretion of a solar mass per day by a 17-billion solar mass black hole" :-
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2209.09342.pdf

The discovery paper, "AllBRICQS: the All-sky BRIght, Complete Quasar Survey" :-
https://www.eso.org/public/archives/...2/eso2402a.pdf

ESO video :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z8E4spViHE

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Old 21-02-2024, 10:41 AM
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Thanks Dennis! That was quick! Fabulous!


"The accretion of a solar mass per day by a 17-billion solar mass black hole" :-
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2209.09342.pdf

The discovery paper, "AllBRICQS: the All-sky BRIght, Complete Quasar Survey" :-
https://www.eso.org/public/archives/...2/eso2402a.pdf
No worries Gary, we had a clear night to start with, so it was a good opportunity to re-acquaint myself with the rig.

Having another look at The Sky X Pro, I think the Quasar is located at:

RA (2000.0): 05h 29m 15.8061s
Dec (2000.0): -43° 51' 52.057"

Magnitude: 16.34

Catalog Identifier: 4805630493655815040

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No worries Gary, we had a clear night to start with, so it was a good opportunity to re-acquaint myself with the rig.

Having another look at The Sky X Pro, I think the Quasar is located at:

RA (2000.0): 05h 29m 15.8061s
Dec (2000.0): -43° 51' 52.057"

Magnitude: 16.34

Catalog Identifier: 4805630493655815040

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Thanks Dennis!

That DR3 identifier is correct.

The discovery paper cites :-
J0529-4351 as Gaia DR3 SOURCE_ID 4805630493655815040

RA 82.3159 Dec -43.8645 J2000
Which indeed is RA 05:29:15.8 Dec -43:51:52

which is the same as you report
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Thanks Dennis!

That DR3 identifier is correct.

The discovery paper cites :-
J0529-4351 as Gaia DR3 SOURCE_ID 4805630493655815040

RA 82.3159 Dec -43.8645 J2000
Which indeed is RA 05:29:15.8 Dec -43:51:52

which is the same as you report
Thanks Gary, I browsed various on-line resources for the RA and DEC before my imaging session but could not find them.

So I cropped part of the ESO image and did a plate solve to locate the constellation and region and from there, matched it up with the sky chart in The Sky X Pro.

The ancient astronomers and philosophers could only dream of such tools in the hands of todays’ citizens.

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Half a dozen of us observed J0529-4351 visually at Coonabarabran on Mon 11 March using a 25" Obsession.
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Half a dozen of us observed J0529-4351 visually at Coonabarabran on Mon 11 March using a 25" Obsession.
Excellent news Gary.

I have since learned that the object designation also contains the J2000 RA and DEC coordinates, so there was no need for me to submit an Astrometry.net search.

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