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Old 27-07-2016, 05:56 AM
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Hartung's Re-issue

Great news!

I ended up tracking down the publisher (Melbourne University Publishing) and telling them how sought after the second edition of Hartung's is in the southern Astro community. I even mentioned and linked to the very long thread on IIS discussing the text. I asked them to consider putting the book out as an ebook because the costs would be very low, assuming they still have an electronic version of the book somewhere. It looks like they're going to go the whole hog.

This is the response I got;

"Hi Markus,

We will make this book available again as a paperback and ebook.
This will take about a month, so will be available 1st September
I will let you know when it becomes available

Thanks,
Pilar"

So excited!!

-Markus
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Old 27-07-2016, 08:17 AM
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That is great to know! And I am sure the price will not be $200+ like many have asked recently.

A similar re-publishing occurred in my other field of interest - motorcycling. Matt Oxley wrote a book about Suzuki's two stoke GP effort of the 1960's called "Stealing Speed" It sold out quickly and asking price on ebay was $200 for a $30 book. This book has just been republished and can be bought for $40 new.

Though I would have liked one, I never gave thought to paying the ridiculous asking prices for Hartungs.
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Old 27-07-2016, 08:42 AM
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Nice one Markus!
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Old 27-07-2016, 10:10 AM
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I'm in for a copy
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Old 27-07-2016, 10:25 AM
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Amazing news, and would this be unprecedented in astro publishing? ! I'm glad I held off from buying an expensive copy. Will be interesting to see how the price plummets on Amazon etc.

Well done in asking..

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Old 27-07-2016, 11:48 AM
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I disagree with John B regarding $200 being ridiculous. The hardback version
which has been selling for around that price was $80 new twenty one years
ago, and allowing for cost of living increases over the ensuing years, would
probably be about $150 now. There have been some sold for even higher prices, which I agree are ridiculous.
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Old 27-07-2016, 12:34 PM
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I'll buy one for field use but won't be relinquishing my two hardcovers....
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Old 27-07-2016, 03:21 PM
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That's great news
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Old 27-07-2016, 03:27 PM
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I'll buy one for field use but won't be relinquishing my two hardcovers....
Ditto...but I just have the one hard cover copy.

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Old 27-07-2016, 04:22 PM
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An e-copy has real appeal! No damp pages......
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Old 28-07-2016, 08:22 AM
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I disagree with John B regarding $200 being ridiculous. The hardback version
which has been selling for around that price was $80 new twenty one years
ago, and allowing for cost of living increases over the ensuing years, would
probably be about $150 now. There have been some sold for even higher prices, which I agree are ridiculous.
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Glad the same reckoning does not apply to astro gear. I'd hate to think what an entry level scope sold in those days would be "worth" now
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Old 28-07-2016, 10:08 AM
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Glad the same reckoning does not apply to astro gear. I'd hate to think what an entry level scope sold in those days would be "worth" now
I would have to agree with Raymo.

Stuff increases in value going by the scarsety of said object and demand.
The Mona Lisa,or Blue Poles didn't cost much to paint,but now are priceless
So if you want something hard enough you will need to pay the price asked or forget about it.
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Old 28-07-2016, 12:34 PM
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I would have to agree with Raymo.
Stuff increases in value going by the scarsety of said object and demand.
The Mona Lisa,or Blue Poles didn't cost much to paint,but now are priceless
Raymo suggested a very different explanation for increased prices. You might find that the average punter at the time might have found it equally hard to afford the Mona Lisa as they would today.

As for Hartung's - Markus didn't just
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And that's how you get results.
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Old 28-07-2016, 02:30 PM
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An e-copy has real appeal! No damp pages......
I wonder which e-readers would be most resistant to dew? Or would you just use an app on your laptop/phone?
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Old 29-07-2016, 04:06 PM
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iPad. I use it without issue, running Sky Safari 4 controlling my scope by Wi-Fi. A sheet of red acetate and low brightness maintains dark adaption.

And.... I fit a couple of 'Warmies' in the cover during winter. Keeps the iPad and my hands warm on those cold nights!
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Just got back from Stellarfest 2016 which was held at Foxton Beach NZ this weekend. Bought a 1st edition Hartung there for $20. It is a little tatty but can't complain about that. I was going to get the E-book but I think I will hold off.
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Old 31-07-2016, 09:11 PM
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Congrats on your find, though I'm not sure what the difference is between the first and second editions, but I'm lead to believe the second edition is the more sought after (and therefore the more expensive) version.

Either way, I'm hoping the ebook version will ensure that it will be available for a long time to come since it's costs next to nothing to distribute e-books and they don't have to fight for shelf space in a bookstore and so carry more longevity.



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GREAT NEWS
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Congrats on your find, though I'm not sure what the difference is between the first and second editions, but I'm lead to believe the second edition is the more sought after (and therefore the more expensive) version.
The chap that sold me the first edition said that 2nd edition (of which he has a copy) has been sanitized ie Hartung's personal comments about appearance and colour of some objects have been deleted. I couldn't possibly comment as I have never seen a 2nd edition copy.
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