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Old 14-10-2015, 04:08 PM
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NGC 253 First Light

This is my first image in nearly 12 months, and first light image for the TOA-150. Despite towards the last subs, I realised I screwed up the spacing for the field flattener, I'm please with the result. Some of the star shapes are a little funny, but after a re-measure, I have a new adapter coming for the flattener.

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Feedback always appreciated +ve or -ve, I feel a bit rusty Do you guys think it's a bit too blue? I like it, would have been good to add some HA data, but I only thought of it after I finished it.

Thanks for looking.
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Old 14-10-2015, 04:39 PM
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Welcome back, Erik! Detail is good. I'd like to see a bit more colour in the stars. The galaxy isn't too blue for my taste but would look better with some more colour variation.

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Old 14-10-2015, 05:43 PM
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Very fine Erik! Lovely high contrast from that TOA-150. Nice processing of the dust lanes. Lots of tiny galaxies in the background.

My own preference would be to set the dark point closer to the foothill of the histogram, and then rebalance so that the image was on average less blue.

The star colours seem to have burned out to white. Perhaps you've clipped the top end of the histogram.

Apart from those tiny suggestions, it's a very nice 253 indeed.
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Old 14-10-2015, 08:23 PM
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Aside from the things already mentioned maybe mask out the stars in the galaxy when you are sharpening. Good detail and image scale.
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Old 14-10-2015, 08:28 PM
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Looks much better in the full view than in the thumbnail!

There's some posterisation in the background and artefacts around the stars that I believe to be caused by jpeg compression; I'd probably suggest scaling it down and upping the quality for presentation purposes. Obviously the underlying data is not affected by that though.

Other than that and what others have already said I'd probably up the black point a bit; the background is very grey. (edit: oops, looks like Mike already beat me to that too).

All criticism aside, this is a very nice image; good work!
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Old 14-10-2015, 09:44 PM
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Welcome back, Erik! Detail is good. I'd like to see a bit more colour in the stars. The galaxy isn't too blue for my taste but would look better with some more colour variation.

Cheers,
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Thanks Rick, thats good to hear, I like the blue also. I agree, some nice Ha would liven it up.
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Aside from the things already mentioned maybe mask out the stars in the galaxy when you are sharpening. Good detail and image scale.
Thanks for the tip Paul. Still not very confident with the star mask tool, but I'll do some learning
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Looks much better in the full view than in the thumbnail!

There's some posterisation in the background and artefacts around the stars that I believe to be caused by jpeg compression; I'd probably suggest scaling it down and upping the quality for presentation purposes. Obviously the underlying data is not affected by that though.

Other than that and what others have already said I'd probably up the black point a bit; the background is very grey. (edit: oops, looks like Mike already beat me to that too).

All criticism aside, this is a very nice image; good work!
Thanks I liked the background, maybe its my display? It is a little light perhaps....I was afraid of clipping too much, but I'll try it out

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Very fine Erik! Lovely high contrast from that TOA-150. Nice processing of the dust lanes. Lots of tiny galaxies in the background.

My own preference would be to set the dark point closer to the foothill of the histogram, and then rebalance so that the image was on average less blue.

The star colours seem to have burned out to white. Perhaps you've clipped the top end of the histogram.

Apart from those tiny suggestions, it's a very nice 253 indeed.
Thank you, I never noticed the burned out stars until now I have to work on my processing of the stars, something I think I overlook a lot of the time.
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Old 15-10-2015, 12:00 AM
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Congrats Erik. Its been quite a road eh?

Overall a very pleasing Sculptor with some lovely detail typical of the fabulous TOA150.

I think it is quite a bit too blue as the Sculptor has some blue in it but its more of a yellow/brownish dusty spiral galaxy.

As mentioned protecting the stars during the processing needs to be done. But the detail is terrific.

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Old 15-10-2015, 12:23 AM
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What I love about this image is the two very distinct coloured areas enable one to really see the bar and spiral structure.

Very nice and thanks for sharing the larger version Erik

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Old 15-10-2015, 12:09 PM
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Nice work Erik, excellent details, welcome back!

Sure, there does appear to be a bit of a blue colour cast over the field but funny, while it would probably be good to see a little more colour variation, (especially the HII regions) across the galaxy, if you look at many past photographic shots of NGC 253, it did often look pretty blue

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Old 15-10-2015, 07:19 PM
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Congrats Erik. Its been quite a road eh?

As mentioned protecting the stars during the processing needs to be done. But the detail is terrific.

Greg.
Thanks Greg, yeah it was a long break, but good to get back into it. Thanks for the feedback, I'll have a play with the stars.

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What I love about this image is the two very distinct coloured areas enable one to really see the bar and spiral structure.

Very nice and thanks for sharing the larger version Erik

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Thank Malcom

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Nice work Erik, excellent details, welcome back!

Sure, there does appear to be a bit of a blue colour cast over the field but funny, while it would probably be good to see a little more colour variation, (especially the HII regions) across the galaxy, if you look at many past photographic shots of NGC 253, it did often look pretty blue

Mike
Thanks Mike, and nice image. I do like the HII regions in your image, adds a bit of variation which mine lacks.

Thanks everyone for the feedback and tips

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Old 15-10-2015, 08:31 PM
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minor technical points have been raised by others, but it is still a very impressive image Erik. Colour seems a little bluer than some, but convincing. detail is excellent.
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Old 16-10-2015, 12:35 AM
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Nice work Erik,
You've got more detail than I got.
How much integration time was there?

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Old 16-10-2015, 11:58 AM
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Thanks Allan, yeah I was very happy with the amount of detail, much better than my last image. I forgot to mention the integration time!

7 hours in total
30 x 10 minutes luminous
4 x 10 minutes in RGB each.

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Old 16-10-2015, 02:32 PM
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Thanks Mike, and nice image. I do like the HII regions in your image, adds a bit of variation which mine lacks.

Erik
T'wasn't my image Erik, that was Monsignor Malins handywork from the 80's (?)

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Old 16-10-2015, 11:30 PM
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Thanks Allan, yeah I was very happy with the amount of detail, much better than my last image. I forgot to mention the integration time!

7 hours in total
30 x 10 minutes luminous
4 x 10 minutes in RGB each.

Erik

Thanks Erik,
just had another look -
you've got countless faint galaxys popping through everywhere.
You've gone really deep in only 7 hours.

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