added another set of data - some 30 x 4 mins dithered.
I think my grainy problem is due to using iso 800 darks with iso 400 lights. oops! Will try and reproc with better darks.
Graz
ISO 800 should be ok but make sure you take the darks and stack in DSS via Median.
I am finding success with ISO 800 (hopefully drop back to 400 later on when tracking is really good) and after I finish, I set the camera to take about 25 darks outside while I go to bed.