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Old 25-09-2011, 07:41 PM
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Inspired by Carl (Renormalised) I had another go at hunting back the family and had a breakthrough. I had always been told we started as convicts but never found the truth until today. I have found that Thomas Upton came on the second fleet. It turns out that on my mothers side my Great Great Great Grandma is Jane Upton known as Australian Royalty who founded Dubbo.
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Nice to have some interesting history to ones family.
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Might get around to the family research one of these days. My eldest sister back in Scotland says we are related to the Buchanan Clan. Have to get her to send what she has found so far.
( Remember a singer introducing his song as about the "End of The World" or "Going To Live In Dubbo" ) Just kidding
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Old 26-09-2011, 12:10 AM
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Inspired by Carl (Renormalised) I had another go at hunting back the family and had a breakthrough. I had always been told we started as convicts but never found the truth until today. I have found that Thomas Upton came on the second fleet. It turns out that on my mothers side my Great Great Great Grandma is Jane Upton known as Australian Royalty who founded Dubbo.

I've got some more info for you

From the NSW BDM records.

Jane Upton (your 3x Great Grandmother) and Patrick Byrne had 7 children...

V18481107 65/1848, George Byrne
V18511906 68/1851, Mary A
V18281147 127/1828, William P
V18291168 128/1829, William P (either same as above, or new kid)
V1840519 61/1840, Jane
V18542039 71/1854, Henry J
V18342239 71/1834, Henry J (probably the same, but check out)
V18311811 125/1831, John
V18311729 127/1831, John (this is a doubled up entry in register)
8167/1856, Robert C (registered in the Windsor district)

The numbers there are the register entries for each person and the year they were born.

Thomas Upton is also mentioned quite a few times in the Colonial Secretary's Papers as well, from 1809-1825. His son James is also mentioned. Found this at the NSW State Records Online.

I'll see what else I can find for you
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Old 26-09-2011, 06:15 AM
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Thanks Carl,

I find this facinating it has taken a long time to get this far back as I am doing it without paying out for records as it is fun but not something I am desperate to complete. Anyway the longer it takes it prolongs the enjoyment.
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I found out that my GG granddad was the hangman at the Old Bailey and later in life he himself was hung for murder.

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Thanks Carl,

I find this facinating it has taken a long time to get this far back as I am doing it without paying out for records as it is fun but not something I am desperate to complete. Anyway the longer it takes it prolongs the enjoyment.
There's a great deal you can obtain that is free, or relatively cheap. It shouldn't take you very long at all to go back as far as you have. The main thing is knowing you can obtain the records you want.
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Old 26-09-2011, 10:58 AM
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I found your Patrick Byrne's DoB and death dates, as well as his parents

He was born in 1807, in Windsor, and died in same on 11 May 1868. His parents were Patrick Byrne and Catherine Power. His old man was born in 1771 (Dublin, Ireland) and died on 6 June 1848 at Cornwallis (just outside of Windsor). His mother was born in 1773 (Cork, Co Cork, Ireland) and died on 11 Apr 1830, in Windsor. They were married in July of 1803 up at the Hawkesbury. Both Patrick and Catherine were buried at St Matthews CoE Church, in Windsor.

Patrick also had a brother named John, born in 1805 (Windsor). Might also have some more info on him. Looks like he married a girl named Elizabeth (b.1809, Parramatta) and their son William was born 10 Mar 1831, in Parramatta. He was christened on 8 Apr 1831 at St John's Church, in Parramatta.
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May have also found old Patrick Byrne's father....born in 1743, Dublin. That's all I've found on him, so far. There are two other entries for a Patrick Byrne, but I'm pretty confident they're not Pat's father. A little too young and not married in time.
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Old 26-09-2011, 11:08 AM
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Thanks Carl,

Your good at this stuff lots of leads for me to follow up
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Old 26-09-2011, 11:13 AM
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Just found a very good match for the above...

A Patrick Byrne born at the right time (about 1742) from Dunleary, Monkstown, Dublin. Married to a Martha Connor (b.1747, in same) in 1768 (in same). They have a son, Christopher (b. 19 Nov 1769), who is probably Patrick's older brother.
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Thanks Carl,

Your good at this stuff lots of leads for me to follow up
Many years of practice and experience
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Old 26-09-2011, 11:23 AM
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As an aside, I found Martha's brother and his wife and kid. His name was Patrick Connor, married to woman named Ann. They had a girl, Martha, born 13 Mar 1766 in Monkstown, Dublin.
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Just found out Patrick's birthdate, and his (and Martha's) parents. Patrick was born 25 Oct 1737 (10 years older than Martha) in Monkstown, Dublin.

Their parents were Thomas Connor and Mary. Thomas was born in 1703 (Monkstown) and he married Mary in 1729 (Monkstown). Mary was born around 1708 (Monkstown). Apart from Patrick, they also had a son named Thomas (b.5 Oct 1733, Monkstown, Dublin). Young Thomas married a woman named Elizabeth (b. 1735) in 1756 in Monkstown.

I may also have a bead on Thomas' father, but I'm not too certain on which Thomas it might be. He may have been born in either 1672 or 1670. There's an outside chance he was born in 1662, but that might make him a little too old, unless his son Thomas (b. 1703) is a youngest son.
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I have found some pic's of Jane and Thomas and Jane's grave
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Old 26-09-2011, 12:07 PM
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Just found that Patrick and Thomas had a sister, Mary (b. 18 Jan 1735, Monkstown, Dublin). Twin brothers named John and William who were born on 16 Jul 1739 and died 9 days later. They were baptised on the 18th July. A brother Samuel, born 15 Mar 1740. Another sister named Sarah, born 22 Jul 1731 (bapt on the 26).
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Your Jane died in 1888....that might be a relation, but not your 3x Great Grandmother. Might be your 2nd great grandmother.

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Warren, whereabout's is that headstone, in QLD or NSW???
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Old 26-09-2011, 12:28 PM
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Georgetown Cemetery QLD so you might be right there. I have found my fathers family I believe the first in Australia his name is Johann (John) Maag 1845-1905
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She could also be a wife of a cousin.
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