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Old 12-01-2011, 09:07 PM
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2" Filters

I'm looking to buy a 2" OIII, and maybe a H beta filter. There are quite a few brands avaliable, so the magic question - which is best?

And then the other magic question - who sells for the best price? I'd like to use an Australian supplier, but if overseas presents better value, then......
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Old 25-01-2011, 05:23 PM
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Obviously this is not a scintillating topic! Decision is to go with an Astronomics.

I'll be quiet now!!!
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Old 25-01-2011, 05:33 PM
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Wren, have you read info from the filter guru over on Cloudy Nights? What's his name again? I'll go and check.
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Got him - David Knisely

See http://www.cloudynights.com/item.php?item_id=1520

This is an article about types of filters. He has other threads/reviews on specific makes and often contributes to questions about specific filters in the Equipment forum.

Eg: http://www.cloudynights.com/byauthor.php?author_id=2

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http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org/filters.htm

At the moment, you will likely buy cheaper from a US retailer and postage won't be much for filters. But they cannot sell some makes outside of the USA.
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Old 25-01-2011, 07:33 PM
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Geez Eric, you woke me!

Yep, I had seen the articles. Taking that info on board and a bit of diccussion with Ken, decided go with O3.

Some day when the clouds go away we may get together at Snake Valley and see how it goes?
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Geez Eric, you woke me!

Yep, I had seen the articles. Taking that info on board and a bit of diccussion with Ken, decided go with O3.

Some day when the clouds go away we may get together at Snake Valley and see how it goes?
Yes, OIII is more frequently used than H-Beta.

I'm hoping for next New Moon - 4th. Must check with Ken whether the road is washed away again! It's highly likely.
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Old 07-03-2011, 03:41 AM
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I'm looking to buy a 2" OIII, and maybe a H beta filter. There are quite a few brands avaliable, so the magic question - which is best?

And then the other magic question - who sells for the best price? I'd like to use an Australian supplier, but if overseas presents better value, then......
Hi Wren,

I'm not affiliated with any suppliers/sellers etc...but if you PM me I'll give you a link to a supplier in the USA if you want to check it out? I've purchased from them before and they are very reliable and postage is very very reasonable. They also stock major brands.
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Sorry to jump in. I too have thought about an O3 filter or a UHC filter. Which is your recommendation? I don't suffer too much in the way of light polution. I've read up on both and they seem similar in a lot of ways (UHC offers Hydrogen Alpha). Initially I would use it for visual purposes, but want to use it for photography as well. Any advice recommended is muchly appreciated.

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Old 07-03-2011, 03:16 PM
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Might have some useful info....

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Sorry to jump in. I too have thought about an O3 filter or a UHC filter. Which is your recommendation? I don't suffer too much in the way of light polution. I've read up on both and they seem similar in a lot of ways (UHC offers Hydrogen Alpha). Initially I would use it for visual purposes, but want to use it for photography as well. Any advice recommended is muchly appreciated.

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Hi Dutch,

From information I've gathered, the type of filters mentioned in this thread are really only good in large aperature scopes. The reason is that they do block a significant amount of light in order to let in the important and much desired tuned wavelengths such as OIII etc...These wavelengths are but a fraction of the overall spectrum of light entering the scope unfiltered. Therefore, the views do look somewhat dimmer but have more contrast and specific OIII, H-beta, H-Alpha and SII wavelengths are more pronounced using filters that enhance such wavelengths.

There are versions of these filters that are made for photographic and visual use. The photographic versions are not really suited for visual use.
You should take this into account when making a purchase.

Photographic versions have a narrower bandpass that are tuned to to allow more precise spectral bandpass/wavelengths through, this allows even less light from other wavelengths through and so, a long type exposure CCD imaging is required to develop a decent outcome/view. The image/recorded view results of such filters are more defined than wider bandpass visual counterparts, and look more defined and more contrasty

In the end you really need to do some research on different manufacturers' filter products by looking at there product data sheets. The reason being is that not all are the same. Some say they have broad bandpass filtering characteristic and some say the same but, bandpass is narrower/wider than others in their class/design. This could make a significant difference according to your application.

If you are asking is there a good priced, general purpose type nebula/OIII with H-beta enhancement for visual use etc..., then I would go with either:

GSO Broadband, Nebula filter with light pollution and skyglow filtering

or

GSO OIII filter - narrow band, ultra high contrast (UHC), has emission and planetary nebulae peaks; OIII and H-beta enhancement

or

GSO UHC filter - narrowest passband of GSO filters, for best results when viewing ring nebulae and most planetary nebulae, 500nm centred

The last two are recommended really for photographic use because they are narrowband filters.

These GSO filters are very cost-effective but, unfortunately only come in 1.25" at Andrew's here in Australia. I think GSO only make these in 1.25" from what I can gather on their website. I have heard they do a great job though and, are very decent quality.

If you want to go 2" with another well known range of brand names, then PM me and I'll send you a link. This supplier has the best prices I've found on filters. Postage is very cost-effective too. They are in the USA. I don't want to post it here in case it violates the forums rules you understand.

If anyone is interested, I have a thread on a project I'm working on. Using LCD screens as a Digital Optical Filter for a scope. Primarily designed as a colour filtering system to replace screw-on colour scope filters, in Theory virtually any wavelength/bandpass as small as 0.00002086nm can be blocked or filtered for visual and photographic use. You may want to check it out. It's in the ATM/DIY section.

Hope that all helped a little

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