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Old 02-03-2011, 09:09 PM
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Borders Bookshop

I like bookshops and I like browsing books on shelves so I take no delight in seeing Borders go to the wall but its not hard to see why its happening. I was in Borders Brisbane today and was flicking through a book I really liked the look of, ''The Illustrated Guide to Astronomical Wonders'', but at $71 i was a bit hesitant and decided to look online for a price comparison.

I ended up ordering it on Amazon for $2.06 AUD + $12.00 AUD shipping
I may end up waiting a couple of weeks to get my hands on it but it was no contest pricewise.

Its really sad but physical bookshops just cant compete with that.
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Old 02-03-2011, 09:23 PM
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I agree.

I spent a lot of time at Borders while at Macquarie University, during lunch times and free time. Nothing like sitting down and thumbing through the real deal.

Oh, well.

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Old 02-03-2011, 10:03 PM
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Prior to discovering promiscuos women in my mid twenties, books were pretty much my life. The act of browsing through a good bookshop is one of lifes great pleasures. Hopefully places like Reader's Feast and Readings will pick up the 'browse 'n buy' crowd. They tend to spend more on books than those going for a particular item.

Before my time at Shell, I used to manage a large academic bookshop in London (luckily it was staffed by many promiscuous women, so a bit of a two-fer ). The staff (largely uni grads) did all the buying themselves and only bargain books and were handled from corporate.
In shops like Borders the overheads are high and margins low and its very difficult to shift some specialty publications. If you want staff that actually know something about a particular subject, or at least books to do with that subject, you need to pay them better than Maccas staff.

Therefore, Borders was the evil empire when I left London. They were bringing in cheap American versions of popular books by the boatload and undercutting everybody. Hiring chimps as staff and using their grunt to get extra discounts from suppliers. I saw a good many first class bookshops go to the wall thanks to Borders and the like, so its hard for me to feel too much sympathy for them.
I do feel for the staff though.

I hope no one takes this the wrong way, but there just isn't the intellectual environment here to support large, eclectic bookshops.
Its sort of alien to the vast majority why someone would want to spend hours pouring over books. We want it cheap and we it want now, so we head to Amazon or whoever.
Same in the US I suppose, but they have a larger population to pick up the slack.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:19 PM
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Mick, is $2.06 a typo? Amazon are showing it for $19.97 USD. I got the same volume from The Book Depository in the UK posted for $34 AUD, so I agree with your comments. I also had seen it in Borders in Adelaide for the same price you mentioned.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:25 PM
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I have a bit of an issue with the "protection" publishers receive, I tried to order an eBook ( I like the idea of not using paper) online and all sites with that particular eBook reject my order because they recognize my Australian IP address. Of course the eBook version is not available in Oz and the paperback is 3x the cost from US stores.

So much for free trade.
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Old 03-03-2011, 01:44 PM
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Alan Jones spoke to ex NSW Premier Bob Carr (now on the Dymocks board) about parallel import restrictions in reference to Borders/Angus & Robertson this morning on 2GB.

Go to www.2gb.com and look for the following on the front page:

The state of the book industry
Alan Jones talks with former Premier of NSW Bob Carr about the state of the book industry.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:02 PM
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Mick, is $2.06 a typo? Amazon are showing it for $19.97 USD. I got the same volume from The Book Depository in the UK posted for $34 AUD, so I agree with your comments. I also had seen it in Borders in Adelaide for the same price you mentioned.

Hi Neil, not a typo, it was $2.06 AUD + $12 post.

I didnt realise until I saw the confirmation email this morning when I got to work that it was a ''used'' copy but is described as being as new. I was just too shocked by the low price to check the fine points and ordered it.

Cant be any worse than the Borders copy though which is as good as ''used'' after who knows how many people have thumbed through it!

For $14 I dont care if it turns up with dog ears, and a coffee ring on the cover.
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