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Old 07-07-2010, 09:00 PM
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Messier 4 - Bathed in the light of a supergiant

Another one from Wiruna. I've always loved this glob, but missed seeing it through any of the big dobs at the SPSP, so on the last night thought I'd see what the QHY9 could do with a limited number of exposures.

Purists may point out the glare from Antares is showing up weaknesses in my budget imaging train, but I like the effect from the rays that's come out as I processed this one. Suspect I've ended up with more colour and less noise than I deserved for so few frames, but then again, it is a bright one. This exercise creates a new problem though - the majority of my old Messier pics are looking a bit obsolete now. Have posted an earlier effort with the 450D for comparison (taken 6/6/09 with 4 x 2.5 mins subs) ISO 800). Guess I'll have to revisit many of those in my collection until I'm happy.

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QHY9/MPCC on the 8" Newt
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:03 PM
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Purists may point out the glare from Antares is showing up weaknesses in my budget imaging train, but I like the effect from the rays that's came out as I processed this one.
I agree Rob - I like the drama/power of the image.
Cool as!
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:04 PM
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I like it.

All technical aspects (focus/guiding/noise/colour) well handled...and the edge diffraction makes the image interesting.

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:05 PM
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Rob,

Magnificent colour in the stars of the cluster.

Well done, mate.

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:05 PM
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Nice! I like the rays too, makes it obvious that there is more going on outside the frame. I want to pan to the right and take a look
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:10 PM
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Rob,

Another great shot from you,
keep up the good work!

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:10 PM
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Gee that was quick - lots of people online.
Thanks for the comments guys

Have also added in an earlier effort for comparison.

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i think it looks perfect the way it is. nice work
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:20 PM
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You got some lovely star colours going there. The rays from Antares is a nice effect.

Out of interest Antares is an unbelievably large star. There are a few you-tube videos about star and planet sizes. Our sun is something like 93 million miles in diameter. As I recall Antares is 3.2 billion.

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Great image of M4 Rob, lovely colours and sharpness.

Sure t'would be better if the ray pattern wasn't there as it covers the subject but it does look quite quirky and interesting all the same.

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Old 07-07-2010, 11:14 PM
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i think it looks perfect the way it is. nice work
Thanks Shane

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You got some lovely star colours going there. The rays from Antares is a nice effect.

Out of interest Antares is an unbelievably large star. There are a few you-tube videos about star and planet sizes. Our sun is something like 93 million miles in diameter. As I recall Antares is 3.2 billion.

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Heck - I knew it was big, buts that's outrageous. Must read up more. Thanks Greg.

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Great image of M4 Rob, lovely colours and sharpness.

Sure t'would be better if the ray pattern wasn't there as it covers the subject but it does look quite quirky and interesting all the same.

Mike
Wasn't something I was aiming for Mike - its actually right across the image to the left when you stretch it hard too . I've never encountered this before - something to be on the lookout for in the future I guess.
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Old 07-07-2010, 11:47 PM
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I like it. It adds something. I wish I could have a look to the right to find out. Could you help?

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The Sun is aprox 1000.000kms in Diameter and 150 000.000kms(93million miles from Earth
Antares is three hundred million kilometers in Diameter.
No Billions involved
Nice pic's Rob.
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:03 AM
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I find your #1 image very effective. Great stuff.
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Massive improvement on your earlier image, looks like you'll have to go back through the catalog & do them all again.
But that's part of the process of improving our abilities I guess, revisiting old friends.

I too like the stray rays, they converge some way off the field giving a sense of just how huge a fireball Antares is.
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:16 AM
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I think I'm not a purist it's a wonderful photo! I'd even want more light filtering!
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Old 08-07-2010, 01:45 AM
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i agree adds to the mood of the image. great star colours
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A tactic that can often work, (individual stringettes) if you're not a John cleese /Monty python fan that wont make much sense
Looks fine to me, most scopes have some artifacts around bright stars.... Even the expensive ones.

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Agree - the effect really adds to an already great image.
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Old 08-07-2010, 07:44 AM
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Nice one Rob. Great star colors and sharp as. The side streaks makes it interesting. Otherwise clusters are boring.
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