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Old 30-01-2010, 11:49 AM
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US plan to return to moon 'is dead'

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Old 30-01-2010, 12:43 PM
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Thats a real pity. Now watch the Chinese fill the gap!!
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Old 30-01-2010, 12:44 PM
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Thats a real pity. Now watch the Chinese fill the gap!!
I don't care who does so long as someone does
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Old 30-01-2010, 12:56 PM
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Thats a real pity. Now watch the Chinese fill the gap!!
Well then, thank God for the Chinese. What is this? Back to the cold war again.
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Old 30-01-2010, 12:59 PM
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The Americans not interested in tapping into the He-3 resources?

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Old 30-01-2010, 01:36 PM
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Space exploration will inevitably move out of government hands anyhow. It will be driven by $ and He-3 will be the currency for the moon atleast.
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Old 30-01-2010, 01:47 PM
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I for one don't think that the Chinese being on the moon is going to be a good thing if there is no collaboration between nations. It will end in tears, and not for the Chinese.
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Old 30-01-2010, 02:50 PM
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Maybe the US government has seen Avatar one too many times.

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Old 30-01-2010, 03:07 PM
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Sad - and very short sighted!
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Old 30-01-2010, 04:56 PM
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Another reason the ISS is a waste of space (). A short sighted, post-cold war exercise in touchy-feely international relations.
Nobody's doing anything up there that couldn't be done more efficiently by a machine. All that dosh could've gone onto putting equipment and supplies on the moon ready to DIY together. The amount of top-notch Radio Astronomy that could be done, fairly simply, on the far-side is incredible.

ISS should have been a space hotel charging squillions to wealthy space buffs. That way they'd have some left $ over and have a much better idea of how real people react to long-term spac-edness (word?).

OUR place is exploring other worlds, not farting around in NEO.
And that's all I have to say about THAT!
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Old 30-01-2010, 06:16 PM
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Although I love the history of manned spaceflight, I say, GOOD!!! And that goes for pie-in-the-sky manned missions to Mars too.

The 2009 fiscal year for the US saw a deficit of US$1.4 Trillion, 2010 will be US$1.5Trillion and the following year may be worse still. The US economy is gravely ill through 60 years of recklessness, and it won't repair anytime soon.

Countries like Italy have a debt of 110% GDP and Greece is near insolvent.

The climate issues are not going away, but are getting worse, and no individual country wants to lead the way. The cost of keeping carbon emissions under control, in keeping warming under control, would be to condem all developing countries to stay as developing countries and to scale back first world countries. Ask the Chin family in the outskirts of Beijing (which is already choking to death with pollution), what they think about that idea?!

The west has got itself in a gorilla war with terrorist cells that won't go away until there is retribution, and since the US are in economic trouble, this issue will only heat up.

Until a thousand issues like this are cleaned up and we all can play nicely, I say space can wait...perhaps until a more sensible generation appears.

I'm sure the next 5 generations will really appreciate a more sensible approach to what gets achieved over the next 50 years.

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Old 30-01-2010, 06:22 PM
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[QUOTE

OUR place is exploring other worlds, not farting around in NEO.
And that's all I have to say about THAT![/QUOTE]

Could not have said it better!
One of those other worlds will be mankinds home oneday.............well, not if we do not get on with it - we can all wither and die here!
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Old 30-01-2010, 07:15 PM
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Thats too bad it would great to mount a luner scope on the far side
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Old 30-01-2010, 07:39 PM
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I suspect way back when that someone was complaining about sending ships to the other side of the world was a waste of money and lives. Where would the world be now with out the pioneering spirit of the explorers of our oceans. And what happens when the habitable zone we are in moves and we haven't done the work to move to the other planets and stars do we seriously want to see our race die like the dinosaurs. What a footnote to our civilization yes we knew what was coming but we didn't move out of the cradle. In this diagram it shows that mars will be entering the habitable zone so this means we can look forward to living on 2 worlds in the future so we need to be developing the technology to take advantage of this and then when the earth is moving out of the Zone we have a place to live I understand it is way off in the future but that is no excuse that's how things get left undone and someone say's what the hell were our ancestors doing didn't they think ahead. O sorry if we don't do the tech there will be no ancestors to say that so I suppose that's ok. Any how I am all for moving out of the cradle that's my 2 cents worth.
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Old 30-01-2010, 08:58 PM
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I could see this coming just wait the Mars trip will get canned too

ISS wasn't a waste just not visionary enough what we need is more visionaries running the world.

When will they wake up to themselves and realise that all the worlds resource problems etc could be resolved with the conquest of space

No they'd rather spend billions on pointless wars in countries where they don't belong
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Old 31-01-2010, 12:13 AM
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I don't see why this next moon shot cannot be a collabrative effort. We need a base on the moon for our next journey out. Why not like the ISS and use everyones efforts and money.

Yes the US is in grave trouble, but if they stopped making war with every tin pot nation out there just so that their military industrial machine can keep rolling along, then things might be different. Let's face it, Afghanistan is no threat to anyone really, the same as Iraq. So much money and lives wasted on both sides.

I had hoped to see another moon shot in my life but perhaps now that is all for naught. We need another place where our species can be safe. If we don't do something soon we could jeopardize our very existence. The impact on Jupiter last year highlighted this issue. No one saw that coming and the same could happen to us.

Stupid State sovereignty is holding up our progression. Would serve us right if we had an impact in 30 years. Dumb humans
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Spoken like a true alien!!
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Old 31-01-2010, 12:38 AM
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I must be, considering I don't think like all the rest on this rock.
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Old 31-01-2010, 07:33 AM
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Live Long and Prosper HMMM Sage advise will we take it
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Old 31-01-2010, 10:06 AM
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Sorry to be a pessimist, but I thought this would happen. I just recall every space announcement by every US president over the years (apart from JFK) and almost everyone of them failed to materialise.

A sad day for space exploration, but the Sun will still rise tomorrow and life goes on.
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