3D tv in your home by the end of this year

Kal (Andrew) · #1 11-01-2010, 11:48 AM

It seems as though we will be getting 3D movies in your home by the end of this year, and the good news is that if you have a playstation 3, and a 1080p tv, you will be ready for it. The playstation 3 will simply need a software update to decode the MVC codec on the blu-ray discs, and you will need to buy an infrared transmitter along with "blinking" glasses, the same hardware that has been used for 3D computer gaming for the last few years.

Blu-Ray 3D specifications finalised

This is good news, as I know I can purchase a new tv or a PS3 and not have to worry about upgrading for 3D movies later on.

Edit: According to Mark's post later in this thread you will need a true 120Hz input signal to the tv to avoid flicker issues. All current LCD tv's (there are only a couple of computer LCD monitors) don't have this - they interlace the output signal when claiming "100Hz" or "200Hz" so it looks like you will still need a '3D ready' tv before you can be assured you will be ready

Edit 2: After reading alot more about the specs of 3D blu-ray, they will leave it up to the tv manufacturers on how to implement 3D - be it polarisation techniques, shutter glasses technique, or other technique. One thing I believe though is that the tv will need to support frame packing 3D formats - so new displays will likely need to be purchased.

AdrianF (Adrian) · #2 11-01-2010, 01:05 PM

Wont do me any good as I cant wear the 3D glasses for any length of time. They give me a headache and make me feel like throwing up.

Adrian

that_guy (Tony) · #3 11-01-2010, 01:09 PM

3d gives me motion sickness

Manav (Yugant) · #4 11-01-2010, 02:19 PM

I want 3d telescopes! :p

multiweb (Marc) · #5 11-01-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal

Blu-Ray 3D specifications finalised

Sounds great. Can't wait to see them out.

that_guy (Tony) · #6 11-01-2010, 02:37 PM

isn;t 3d just an overlapped images??

Kevnool (Kev) · #7 11-01-2010, 02:39 PM

I like watching 3D after the first 5 mins i dont know ive got them on.
1080P and the PS3 is all ready to go.
I even watched My Valentine and Journey to the centre of the earth in 3D it was great on the projector.

Cheers Kev.

Lumen Miner (Mitchell) · #8 11-01-2010, 03:21 PM

My gf has never seen a 3d movie. She was assuming it was like the people were in the room with you, like sitting on the bed and such. Had to explain it is more-so the image jumping out of the screen, not full on 3d interaction in the room.

mithrandir (Andrew) · #9 11-01-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by that_guy

3d gives me motion sickness

SWMBO was afraid Avatar would do that. She survived.

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Originally Posted by AdrianF

Wont do me any good as I cant wear the 3D glasses for any length of time. They give me a headache and make me feel like throwing up.

I'd be happier with 3D prescription glasses.

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Originally Posted by that_guy

isn;t 3d just an overlapped images??

Yes, but they are colour modified so the right image is more visible through the right lens and the left image through the left lens.

AdrianF (Adrian) · #10 12-01-2010, 02:59 PM

I want 3D like on the TV show "Bones"

Adrian

Terry B · #11 12-01-2010, 04:16 PM

Ans which industry will be the early uptake users?
see
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-lif...0111-m19e.html

#12 12-01-2010, 04:49 PM

The jokes on you... They couldn't run 24 hours straight without running out of 3D material.

NOW SHOWING.......Mr ED IN 3D follows by Gilligan Island IN 3D

Yeh Right!!!

Kal (Andrew) · #13 12-01-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mithrandir

Yes, but they are colour modified so the right image is more visible through the right lens and the left image through the left lens.

Eeew, colour modified 3D is so 1980's and it sucks!

Current IMAX and cinema 3D uses polarised light and polarised glasses to present different images to each eye, in full natural colour.

The home implementation which I will guess be the most popular will use glasses that "blink" each eye so that each eye see's alternating frames on the tv.

Kal (Andrew) · #14 12-01-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini2544

The jokes on you... They couldn't run 24 hours straight without running out of 3D material.

NOW SHOWING.......Mr ED IN 3D follows by Gilligan Island IN 3D

Yeh Right!!!

There is probably a couple of weeks of 3D content atm, with more being released all the time. If the cost of implementing it at home is only $100 or so for the glasses (assuming you already have a 1080p tv and a PS3) then why not enjoy 3D HD movies in your home?

http://www.3dmovielist.com/list.html

Satchmo · #15 12-01-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal

The home implementation which I will guess be the most popular will use glasses that "blink" each eye so that each eye see's alternating frames on the tv.

Just a bit more technical background.

To see 'flicker free' 3d will require sets that actually receive a picture at 120hz rather than the current crop of TV's that just interpolate 50 or 60 hz to 100hz and 200hz at the final display ( to give the illusion of fluid motion ).

True 120hz on the input is common with DLP projection TV sets and just entering the market for PC monitors. Very little available for LCD so far. It will be while before you will find TV's capable of flicker free 3d for polarization methods in your local JB HI FI

That being said there are already a number of 120hz notebooks on the market that will work with NVidea's 120hz LCD shutterglasses .

I have had LCD shutterglasses for PC gaming that work with my video projector but only at 60HZ so the 30hz flicker I see in 3d really is off- putting.

My choice for 3D viewing will be a 720p 120hz projector and Nvidea shutter glasses , both already available in the US at a total of about $800 USD. Why settle for a 40" screen when you can have a 120" one

Kal (Andrew) · #16 12-01-2010, 06:53 PM

sweet - thanks for that extra info mark, certainly useful!

I've been thinking of getting some 3D glasses to try 3D gaming on my PC, I will have to check my LCD monitor specs, although I don't recall it being 120Hz. Edit - just checked 75Hz, so not a good screen for 3D gaming

multiweb (Marc) · #17 12-01-2010, 07:19 PM

Interesting interview here. Sony Explains How Their 3D Displays Work!

Jen · #18 13-01-2010, 01:37 AM

cool

wavelandscott (Scott) · #19 13-01-2010, 12:49 PM

One of my colleagues attended the CES show in Las Vegas (he swears that he did not go to the AVN)...we make a number of materials which make the flat panel screens work. We also do a lot of LED materials and are working on the next generation OLED...

He was impressed by the technology...and the potential applications (he still swears he did not go to the AVN too)...

Now if only I can get my George Jetson car I'll be happy!

Kal (Andrew) · #20 14-01-2010, 02:51 AM

Arrgh - can't sleep....... lying in bed thinking of refresh rates and what Mark said.

I think that 50Hz (PAL) or 60Hz (NTSC) input signal to the tv is fine for flicker free viewing. In fact - movies are shot @ 24fps, and blu-ray players can output to the tv at just 24Hz though a HDMI cable.

LCD's don't naturally produce flicker like CRT's do, but the shutterglasses will produce flicker. Therefore the shutterglasses will need to operate at 60Hz per eye - which means that the tv output will need to be 120Hz.

Computers are different. Computer monitors won't take an input signal from a 3D video card and apply logic to it to create a flicker free experience - so you need a 120Hz input to match the 120Hz output. Tv's, however, will apply some logic to convert the input signal to an appropriate output display - it's why we have 100Hz and 200Hz displays for out 24Hz or 50Hz inputs.

The important thing for 3D tv is how the tv handles the 50Hz input signal and converts it to a 120Hz output

Disclaimer: It's late, so if any of this is trash and not true I have my excuse