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Old 09-03-2009, 12:04 AM
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Scope setup q's from a newbie

New to the forum and to Astronomy in general.

After doing a large chunk of research as well as speaking with someone at my local telescope shop I am now the proud owner of a new SW 6" mak mated to a SW EQ5 GOTO mount. I forsee its main uses as:
  1. Planetary observation.
  2. Some DSO (narrow AFOV may hinder this for some widely spaced objects but meh I'll live).
  3. Astrophotography of anything I can focus on from the first two points
I've read the scope instructions as well as a few beginner articles (including one here regarding GEM setup which taught me more than all the manuals which came with my scope!) but I still have a few questions I'm hoping someone can help me with.
  1. The OTA has what I take to be a long mount plate on the bottom running most of its length. This appears to be permanently fixed. I'm assuming this is meant to go straight into the EQ5 head bracket and I can ditch (err..., 'store') the short plate that came with this setup? IIRC the short plate was packaged with the EQ5 rather than the OTA.
  2. My OTA is secured to its mount by one ( ) screw knob. The second smaller screw doesn't actually make contact with the plate. Is this a secure configuration? It appears to be OK so far but I'm reluctant to trust the safety of what for me was a rather expensive OTA, to a single bolt. Especially if I'm moving it about for short distances at the observation site.
  3. Once setup, can I leave my scope assembled and only pull it down for transport? So far I'm using it on a balcony, removing the OTA and brining the whole lot in at the end of each evening. I'd much rather leave the whole thing setup and move it inside as a unit however I'm not sure if this is prudent given point 2 above.
  4. Not yet being familiar with GEM, are they meant to have limited azimuth movement? I assumed the whole unit would rotate horizontally through 360degrees however it does not. I have an inkling this may be something to do with alignment as part of setup and that a full range of moment is acheived via the two most obvious axis' of rotation on the head? Not sure if I'm being clear enough with this question...
  5. What sort of base inputs are people using to build rugged transportation cases for their SCT/MCT's, mounts and tripods? I am motorbike mobile but alas no car. I'm thinking of doing up my own secure luggage to fit my astro kit similar to normal panniers/top boxes. GIVI luggage may also be an option, at least for the OTA, head and accessories.
Thanks in advance for any help!

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Old 09-03-2009, 01:55 AM
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New to the forum and to Astronomy in general.



After doing a large chunk of research as well as speaking with someone at my local telescope shop I am now the proud owner of a new SW 6" mak mated to a SW EQ5 GOTO mount. I forsee its main uses as:
  1. Planetary observation.
  2. Some DSO (narrow AFOV may hinder this for some widely spaced objects but meh I'll live).
  3. Astrophotography of anything I can focus on from the first two points
I've read the scope instructions as well as a few beginner articles (including one here regarding GEM setup which taught me more than all the manuals which came with my scope!) but I still have a few questions I'm hoping someone can help me with.
  1. The OTA has what I take to be a long mount plate on the bottom running most of its length. This appears to be permanently fixed. I'm assuming this is meant to go straight into the EQ5 head bracket and I can ditch (err..., 'store') the short plate that came with this setup? IIRC the short plate was packaged with the EQ5 rather than the OTA.
  2. My OTA is secured to its mount by one ( ) screw knob. The second smaller screw doesn't actually make contact with the plate. Is this a secure configuration? It appears to be OK so far but I'm reluctant to trust the safety of what for me was a rather expensive OTA, to a single bolt. Especially if I'm moving it about for short distances at the observation site.
  3. Once setup, can I leave my scope assembled and only pull it down for transport? So far I'm using it on a balcony, removing the OTA and brining the whole lot in at the end of each evening. I'd much rather leave the whole thing setup and move it inside as a unit however I'm not sure if this is prudent given point 2 above.
  4. Not yet being familiar with GEM, are they meant to have limited azimuth movement? I assumed the whole unit would rotate horizontally through 360degrees however it does not. I have an inkling this may be something to do with alignment as part of setup and that a full range of moment is acheived via the two most obvious axis' of rotation on the head? Not sure if I'm being clear enough with this question...
  5. What sort of base inputs are people using to build rugged transportation cases for their SCT/MCT's, mounts and tripods? I am motorbike mobile but alas no car. I'm thinking of doing up my own secure luggage to fit my astro kit similar to normal panniers/top boxes. GIVI luggage may also be an option, at least for the OTA, head and accessories.
Thanks in advance for any help!
G'day and welcome.

I will attempt to answer your questions the best I can.

1. Yes but don't throw away the dovetail that came with the mount, it will come in handy later I'm sure.

2. Not sure about this but someone will be able to fill you in.

3. Welcome to astronomy (we all want observatories). If the unit is not overly heavy and you can move it in one piece why not?

4. The azmith movement is limited to a small range on a eq mount as it is only used to fine tune polar allignment (point the scope south). Tracking is done by the RA (right ascension) and dec (declination) axes. The alt axis (up and down) is used to set the lattitude of your observation site.

5. I have custom made cases made by scopeCase. Being a motorcyclist myself I probably would not recommend that you lug the gear around in panniers. I guess if you were really keen you could get a trailer but that depends on how much grunt your bike has.

Hope this helps

Mark

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Old 09-03-2009, 01:00 PM
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Hi Zeddicus
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WHAT... you want to carry your scope on your bike
Oh no cant have that ditch the bike you have a new hobby now
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Oh no cant have that ditch the bike you have a new hobby now

Only an astro geek would say that.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:07 PM
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Only an astro geek would say that.

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A car _may_ be an option given that a decent bike trailer runs around $3k by itself and has none of the advantages of a car. Then again I reckon I could put together a customised GIVI luggage kit for < $1k.

Any takes on the mount security question? Ta
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Can you post some pics of the offending item?
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Hi Zeddicus
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WHAT... you want to carry your scope on your bike
Oh no cant have that ditch the bike you have a new hobby now
Sacrilege Do you even know what you are suggesting

Don't do it

I'd be interested in how you go with transport on the bike but I can't see it being too successful.
I think the risk in transporting your scope in such a manner would be enough to not even consider the option.

Keep us posted how you go with it if you decide to do it anyway.

All that said I could think of nothing better to be able to load the bike up and sod off on a beautiful summers night for a cruise and a session under the stars.

Maybe get a friend with a car and tell them you will meet them there
Of course they will be taking the scope for you
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