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Old 09-08-2005, 05:22 PM
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Sketching tips and tricks

I am after tips and tricks that people are using to help them sketch the MOC objects. Like what sort of paper/pencil's they are using, drawing techniques etc, other tips?

Thanks (you better reply Darren.. ).
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:33 PM
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Darren sketches the same as me. in pencil, then inverts the image in a pic editing program.
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:38 PM
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ohh thats how u do it.. i thought u guys used black paper and chalk.

was thinking to go into the arts supplies shop and asking for a chalk pencil.. if they exist..

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Old 09-08-2005, 05:47 PM
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I suppose it would be a more 'authentic' sketch to do it in white pencil on black paper though...perhaps? I'm not sure weather to look upon my way as 'cheating' or not. It's just as hard to sketch inverted because you have to remember that all pencil strokes will be white once inverted.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:54 PM
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John, How do you get your pencil drawing into the pooter?

If you say 'Scanner' I'll scream as my scanner just broke!!
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:45 PM
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Ok....I won't say that 'S' word!
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:48 PM
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Take a shot of your sketch with your digi cam Ken, that will do the job.
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:56 PM
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John, the 'S' word is banned in here for a while.

Peter, My super duper Kodak doesn't take close-ups
I've tried and they turn out as blurry blobs. Closest it will focus is about 6 feet.
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I Suppose I could do my sketching on the pooter!!
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:00 PM
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No macro on your cam??
if you use paint shop or something like it, you should be right.
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:03 PM
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How's this?
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:08 PM
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That qualifies for the photo section, not the sketching !! That piccy taken with a refractor??.......no diffraction spikes...hmmmm! Nice shot man!
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Sorry John, here you go! Diffraction spikes.
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Ngc????
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:22 PM
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NGC-BD001/58736253275976/73453/7598466389/54 and a half!
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Old 10-08-2005, 01:25 PM
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Nice one. Yup John has answered the question for you. I use the same method that he does. I get those sketch pads with the spiral bound from the newsagent and then sketch using HB or 2B (depends). I usually have a blunt one for shading and a sharp one for the stars. I start by placing the field stars and then sketch the nebulosity, etc in. I try to put in as much detail as possible under red light at the ep as I want to capture the essence of the object and not have to do too much touchup which I have to do from memory (dust lanes and stuff will have to be added later as you need an eraser to put them in). Then I invert the sketch after scanning. I must remember to sketch more boldly so the sketch transferes well when scanned and inverted. Oh and by the way I have started to experiment with a black sketch pad and color pencils. Let you know how that goes when I get some done

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Old 10-08-2005, 08:54 PM
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Pencil sketches won't be a problem for me as I draw portraits. It's the scanner problem. Mine died! No matter how hard I try, I cannot sketch as good with a mouse.

I'll try a pic of a sketch I did of my son jake to see if it will reproduce any good by downloading it into PhotoShop.
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Old 10-08-2005, 08:57 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys! I might go grab me some half decent pencils tomorrow, I already have a sketch pad.

I had a quick doodle of M55 this afternoon (no more than 2mins) using the image of it in starry night 2004 (which looks nothing like actual telescope images that I have seen online). Its going to take some practice but it should be fun! Here is my first non-genuine effort using a crappy unknown unsharp pencil. Image was inverted in Gimp.
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Old 10-08-2005, 09:12 PM
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Done, in positive and negative.

It seems to work! I will have to do larger drawings though.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:02 PM
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Great sketch Ken. You are a man of many talents.
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