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Old 21-08-2005, 12:16 AM
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Bintel Parallelogram Mount + heavy Duty tripod

Howdy,
I've been trying to get info re Bintel's binocular parallogram mount as advertised on their website (Binoc' Accessories).
Not much to date - the info on line is minimal as are pics.
Does anyone have experience with this mount?
I have just bought a pair of 15x70mm binos from AOE and am keen to steady them!
Also would be keen to know about mirror mounts too.
Any info welcome
Thanks for the help in advance...

Cheers

Doug
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Old 21-08-2005, 12:28 AM
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That bintel mount is way to expensive to my mind. A good camera tripod, maybe 2nd hand (~ $100?), will do the job + bino adapter (~$20). I have an old Linhof camera tripod and it worked well with 20x80 triplets. Donno about mirror mounts...
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Old 21-08-2005, 12:37 AM
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check out the show us your rig thread.. i'm pretty sure there was a diy mirror mount in there.

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Old 21-08-2005, 03:30 AM
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I just got the same binos as well. I've got an old EQ2 that I might convert to an altazimuth & mount them on that..
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Old 21-08-2005, 07:32 AM
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Hi
These binos have got to do me for a while so I need a bit of comfort!
I've used a standard tripod before for 80mm binos but found the tripod hugging too uncomfortable for long term use.
I had hoped the parallelogram design might allow easier viewing but the price is a wee bit high! Although the U.A. mounts are way too expensive to even consider.
I will look into (no pun...) the mirror mount option.
The Sky Window gets rave reviews on its own website!!!!!
I enquired about shipping costs to Oz - $120 US!!!!!
I nearly fell of my seat!
thanks for the responses
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Old 21-08-2005, 07:39 AM
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I'm going to extend the counter weight shaft & mount them to that, to get me away from the tripod. (the shaft will be horizontal of course)

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Old 21-08-2005, 08:10 AM
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If you don't mind getting out some tools and a tape measure, maybe you could make your own.

This link has some plans for one that you might be interested in, http://home.wanadoo.nl/jhm.vangastel...ocs/binocs.htm
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Old 21-08-2005, 09:50 AM
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Thanks for all the replies and links - it has given me more food for thought
Cheers again

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Old 21-08-2005, 10:41 AM
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Hi doug:

I posted pictures of my home made bino mirror mount and some details in this thread

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...5&page=1&pp=20


scroll down to about 5 or 6th post


happy to answer any questions

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Old 21-08-2005, 05:22 PM
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Thanks seeker372011
I had a look, cheers.
Does the type of mirror matter?
Do the binoculars have to be fixed a specific distance from the mirror?
I've heard you don't need too much tilt on the mirror to view from zenith to horizon is this true?
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Old 21-08-2005, 06:02 PM
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The mirror is vital..it must be a front surface mirror. An ordinary mirror will give you double images-just unworkable.If the mirror is not good quality you will soon experience severe discomfort when observing, so it is very important to get this right

The exact distance to mirror from the bino objectives doesnt seem to be a critical parameter-within reason.

It is usual to design your mount so that the binos are at 55 deg angle-I built mine to allow two angles-45 deg and 55 deg and in practice use the 45 deg as it is more comfortable

Remember that if you allow the mirror to rotate enough you can actually use the mount to view objects that are behind you in the sky as well as objects from horizon to zenith, so you dont need to swivel around as often

here's some other approachs to building a mirror mount

http://www.stargazing.com/bino/

http://www.indytel.com/~rnabholz/downbino/

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/observ...cularmount.htm


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Old 21-08-2005, 09:26 PM
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Thanks for the info - I've just been outside with a framed house mirror and had an unpleasant time!
Where do you get a front surface mirror?
A web search found me a guy who used an ex-tank periscope mirror - that's a bit too esoteric for me! (I see he's your first link)
Is there an easier source?

Cheers again

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Old 21-08-2005, 09:30 PM
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I posted before looking at the links you posted - they answer a lot of my questions.
Thanks for the replies and time taken

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Old 21-08-2005, 09:34 PM
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A question for the community...

Where can a man get a first surface mirror in Brisbane?

Cheers and thanks in advance!

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Doug:
you can get first surface mirrors from surplus shed or First Surface Mirrors..links are in the other thread I posted that I referenced above..just scroll down a bit

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Old 21-08-2005, 09:56 PM
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Both those shops are in the US. Is there anywhere we can get surface mirrors in Australia? (Doug was asking in Brisbane, but I'm from Melbourne and I'm interested too.)

BTW: Narayan, I just saw your awesome shot in AS&T. Congratulations!
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Old 21-08-2005, 10:07 PM
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I've got to say though even with a full moon bleaching out the sky and holding these binos by hand - they reveal lots of detail. I 've just had a tour through Scorpius.
Credit to AOE for offering products like this at low cost ($119 + $15 Delivery).
It's a great time for astro gear freaks on a budget thanks to the proliferation of good quality Chinese optical products out there. I paid almost 10x the price for a pair of 80mm Celestron binos 10 years ago which I see you can pick up for about $250 today!!!!! Just as today the big names rebadged the same product and sold them at inflated prices. I've recently came back to the hobby and was really happy to see companies like AOE and Andrews providing quality gear for the amateur community.
I'm not affiliated in any way - other post in this forum tell the same story also.
Sorry I've gone off topic a bit - I'm just pumped!!!!
Cheers

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Old 21-08-2005, 10:10 PM
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There was a glass and mirror place near Albion fiveways where I got mine a few years ago, look in the yellow pages under mirrors and glass, make sure you state first surface mirror.By the way it is not cheap. astroron
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Old 22-08-2005, 04:38 PM
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I emailed Don@Bintel to get a bit more info on this mount he sent a few better pics than the one on their webpage.
Hope this might help somebody too...
Cheers

Doug
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Old 22-08-2005, 06:00 PM
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Another product idea for Mick Pinner enterprises ?

Watching this thread with interest as I just ordered a pair of 15x70's

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