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Old 04-05-2008, 04:54 PM
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Jupiter from Murrumbateman, May

had some nice seeing this morning, spoiled a bit by persistent jetstream blurring, but some good results from some periods.

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Old 04-05-2008, 04:59 PM
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Love seeing nice pics of jupiter. The various cloud bands blow me away every time.
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Old 04-05-2008, 05:09 PM
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Hi Bird, that's a spectacular shot, lovely smooth detail and an image scale that makes me weep! This is the colour I'm looking for too but which can never quite pull...light caremally browns. Any tips to get this?

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Old 04-05-2008, 05:15 PM
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Beautifull Anthony. Was wondering when you would post next!

We got wiped out with high cloud this morning in Melbourne despite good seeing until midnight.
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Old 04-05-2008, 05:17 PM
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Very pleasing to the eyes, Anthony.

Just look at those orange storms and the detail.
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Old 04-05-2008, 05:30 PM
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Hi Bird, that's a spectacular shot, lovely smooth detail and an image scale that makes me weep! This is the colour I'm looking for too but which can never quite pull...light caremally browns. Any tips to get this?

cheers,

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Not really sure Rob - here's what I do, maybe some of this will be useful info...

- leave gamma set to "neutral", ie don't artificially darken the image while capturing as that loses information.

- capture lots of frames (I guess this is only useful for people with mono cameras and reasonable amounts of aperture on Jupiter). For this image I used:

60 seconds of R @ 40fps
60 seconds of G @ 45fps
60 seconds of B @ 35fps

With the Astronomik RGB filter set.

And I stacked the best 1500 frames from each set (as given by the -qestimator -qrenumber option in ninox). If you're feeling brave you can rely on Registax to find the best images instead but that never works properly for me :-)

In registax, use multipoint alignment and about 4 or 5 alignment points

- be gentle on wavelets after stacking, enhance only the fine details. Don't worry too much of some noise comes up as this will be removed later during deconvolution and smoothing.

- Load the result into Astra Image, deconvolve (this part is trial and error, the best settings wil depend completely on the mix of low and high frequency info in your image as well as how much noise is present).

- When you've done this for each of R,G,B, use the Astra Image recombine function to get a colour image

- save as a colour TIFF, load into the Gimp (you may use photoshop) and apply some selective blurring to reduce noise and selective unsharp masking to enhance detail, set levels, colour balance etc. Basically this last stage is where all the destructive things get done.

Some judgement is needed to decide where the line falls between small details and noise, basically you want to smooth everything below this line (noise) and enhance everything above the line (details). It takes some trial and error to find the right set of tools for the job.

As for the colour, I generally find the only change needed is to add some blue. I think the Astronomik filters have good colour balance built-in.

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Old 04-05-2008, 05:56 PM
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Thanks Bird, something that stood out for me is the number of frames your stacking. I'm doing 60 sec at 30fps giving around 1800 frames but only stacking about the best 200 per channel. 1500 is an awful lot, I'll try more and see how I go. Thanks for the very informative reply Bird. Ta, Rob
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Old 04-05-2008, 06:14 PM
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oops, forgot to take my own advice... the original image had no gamma adjustment in the final step, fixed now :-)

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Old 04-05-2008, 06:16 PM
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Thanks Bird, something that stood out for me is the number of frames your stacking. I'm doing 60 sec at 30fps giving around 1800 frames but only stacking about the best 200 per channel. 1500 is an awful lot, I'll try more and see how I go. Thanks for the very informative reply Bird. Ta, Rob
No problems, I reckon you can go 60 seconds, and (if the seeing is good) stack about half the total number of frames.

There are some sessions where I stack 75% of the frames if the seeing is very good, more frames = lower noise, and you can recover the fine details with wavelets/deconvolution/sharpening.

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Old 04-05-2008, 08:34 PM
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Very nice Bird. Gees thats a great shot. That some planet killer of a telescope you got.

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Old 04-05-2008, 09:27 PM
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That's another great shot, Anthony.

This really is shaping as a very nice apparition for you. You're firing on all cylinders
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:39 PM
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another rippa bird!

well done
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:46 PM
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Thanks guys, here's an image from a little earlier, seeing not quite as good but still nice.

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Old 04-05-2008, 10:09 PM
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Fantastic!

Terrific detail in and around the GRS.

The rippling through the SEB is very clear.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:26 AM
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Beautiful, beautiful images mr Wesley.

Handy tips and advice, too
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:43 AM
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Hi Anthony,

Very, very impressive images; the detail is quite extraordinary. Top job!

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Old 05-05-2008, 05:28 PM
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edit: replaced original (top) image. was too heavy on processing in the first version.

cheers, Bird
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:17 PM
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That is just beautiful Bird..
Glad you have been getting some better seeing
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:42 PM
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Awesome image Anthony
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Absolutely amazing images Anthony!

Amazing!
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