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Old 24-07-2005, 06:40 AM
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Major computer trouble!

Hi Guy's
Iv'e been having a lot of trouble with my computer the last few months. I though I'd solved the prob. but it's back...So before I go looking for my 10 lb sledge-hammer, I though I'd perhaps ask one of you puter wizz's to kindly help if you can..

The symptom's: I can be doing something on the puter ie: looking at a webpage usually, seeing I'm nearly always on-line,(but I dont have to be on-line for this to happen!) All of a sudden, the monitor screen will go blank....sometimes with different colored VERtical lines....There ALWAYS vertical lines IF I get them. To explain what I mean further here...the last time it happened (10 mins ago) I was in iceinspace typing a reply to a thread (such as this box I'm typing in right now) when the monitor screen went 'blank'.... the colour of the blank screen was the same light blue colour as THIS box I'm typing in with thin vertical black lines about 50mm apart. Iv'e had this happen in other sites as well, where the box might have a red background, & if I get the blank screen...the colour of the screen will be RED! It seems to be a random event weather I get the vertical lines or not. That's GOT to be some kind of clue, that watever the colour the back-ground is coincides with the color of the blank screen!?

All the experts told me it was the monitor....until I tell them the computer stops responding to all commands from the keyboard when the screen go's blank! Iv'e tried ctrl + alt + delete....no response, you can hit every key till dooms day, it wont matter...no response! That effectively cancels out the monitor, doesn't it??

I was at my wits end 3 mths ago....I had it figured to be a hard-ware fault somewhere in the box...I have 2 sticks of RAM installed....I tried taking one out & tested it for a week. Still had the dreaded SCREEN.....swapped the sticks of RAM over....tested it for a week.....NO SCREEN! It seemed to have fixed it! The stick of RAM was on it's way out. Or so I thought. Iv'e been running with one stick ever sinse...BUT!! In that time, Iv'e got the screen 6 or 7 times....NOT as often as I used to before taking that stick out.....But it's STILL doing it!! just not as regularly *sigh* So the prob is still there.

I know a lot of hacking/tweaking 'secret's' lol & Iv'e tried quite a few to try to get this prob to go away...I'm over-clocking the ol' girl too....but that's not the cause. I had this screen trouble before I started over-clocking...Got the 2 IDE device's activated...got the extra 30meg by nominating the puter as a server..swap file bigger than default, got the RAM de-fragger running, Cache cleaned every night, de-frag C: once a week....blah blah....nothing makes any difference! Obviously not a system problem as such, but a hard-ware problem?

Anyone seen this,or heard of it...??

Pentium 3 750Mhz genuineIntel X 86 family 6 model 8 stepping 6
248 MB RAM (was 512 I think, before turfing the other stick)
19459MB on C: (FAT32) Generally hovers around 65-70% system resources free.

Advice/help/comments MUCHLY appreciated! Dont suggest a really sharp 5LB axe.....cos' it's nicely sharpened, & ready for some ACTION!!


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Old 24-07-2005, 07:54 AM
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VIDEO CARD......sounds like the problem....but looking at those system stats the video will be on board meaning its on your mother board....

Go into your hardware device and tell us what it says under dispay adapter.
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:02 AM
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hi

it could be your graphics card have you got access to a another you can try?
have you overclocked youre graphics card ? id so put it all back to normal ?
or you might have to reformat reinstall the operating system sound like its your graphics card to me though (try a different graphics card first ?)
could allso be corrupted drivers ? uninstall the graphic drivers reinstall ?

cant be youre ram because if it was your computer wouldnt even start up
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:13 AM
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what version of windows, it does sound like video card, but sporadic stalls of the system on versions of windows prior to windows 2000 are common. Microsoft when releasing windows 2000 and XP said as part of their selling speel that under these new operating systems, the need to reboot daily or weekly would not be necessary.
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:32 AM
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Sounds to me like the videocard. I suggest that as a first step you take the covers off, dust everything off with compressed air or a soft brush and reseat the video card making sure it's pushed into it's slot ll the way. If you've got onboard video then the problem could be memory related.
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:40 AM
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If by any chance you have a Nvidia chipped video card go to here and download the latest drivers.

Your after version 77.72 if you have these type of cards.

http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:41 AM
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Morning all! Yep...the vid card is built-in to the mother board...not just a matter of swapping it out.

The display adapter: NVIDIA Aladdin TNT2

Pulled the over-clocking back to normal a week ago....sorry, forgot to mention that bit in my first post. But as stated...the prob started long before the over-clocking.

I have the biggest 'crasher' David....98SE I definately know all about the 'sporadic' stalls lol.

Ok...if it's the Vid card, what's my options if it's part of the mother board? Would the graphic's card be part of the mother board too...as I suspect?

Re-formatted twice in the last 2 months..
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:44 AM
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yep go to that site and follow the guide...first graphics driver the step 2 TNT 2 then windows 98 and download version 77.72...you will have to reboot after instalation and also some of you graphics setting may need changing after rebooting.
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:45 AM
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Did the dust-off.....I have a mother-board flash up-date link...just not game to try it..
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:46 AM
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Some on board video motherboards have another AGP port to add another video card and dissable the one you have on board...but I dont like your chances.
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:48 AM
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dare i say it, back up your data, try the updates for video and mothergoard, but i would be looking to go a new unit. It would not be worth getting a new motherboard given prices of new dells (starting at $699) as an example
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:51 AM
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This thing has been a lemon from day dot....I dont like my chances with ANYTHING I do with this piece of excretement! lol
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:54 AM
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If all fails....throw it off a high rise building...I would like to see the result if you dont mind....oh and make sure knowone is standing below.......lol

Some Video footage would be great....
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:55 AM
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Thanks very much guys for your help...I appreciate it!
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Old 24-07-2005, 08:59 AM
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With that point in mind....can one up-load AVI on this site? If not, will you settle for some nice totally gone off the deep end mad axe-man chopping it into pieces the size of 20cent pieces??
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Old 24-07-2005, 09:12 AM
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how much space for avi do you need? i can setup an area under precons.com/iis say precons.com/iis/members/asimov etc
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Old 24-07-2005, 10:02 AM
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asimov u could try find a 2nd hand pci graphics card.. im sure there are a few around.. i used to have a box full of them.. but i threw em out.. try ebay.. maybe worth $10 or so to get going.. also.. in the bios you might have an option to select how much memory to assign to the vga card.. u could try scale that down.. it my be an issue with the way it's addressing.

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Old 24-07-2005, 12:04 PM
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uuum...ok...NEXT!! Just installed....or tried to install the new driver, it said 'no way' not doing it cos' the video card wasn't a chip-set blah blah....It may as well have said you ain't gettin' salt on your chip's. lol. I think it was saying it's the wrong DRIVER??

I have a choice 0f 2 or 16 colour's....I cant use my picture publisher piccy editor soft-ware...I can hardly even read what I'm typing here cos' this back-ground colour in this box is like looking at a heavily pixeled pic! limited to 640X480 screen size lol
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Old 24-07-2005, 12:07 PM
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Old 24-07-2005, 12:41 PM
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John, with respect to the honourable contributors of this thread, the problem may be none of the above. 98SE wasn't that bad an OS; it was ME that was the lemon. If you have the time and expertise I sugest that you reinstall the OS, from scratch, which need not necessarily involve reformatting your HDD or even transferring your data (just delete the entire windows and program files directories. If the problem's apparent after reloading then it's most likely a hardware fault; if not continue loading until the problem reappears. I have found on many occasions problems such as this are the result of a bad driver, poorly written application or interrupt or other hardware conflict. I have also seen many motherboards of that vintage that are poorly behaved under win98 but run flawlessly once XP is installed. That said your M/B will not necessarily be compatible with XP; upgrade to XP would be a suck it and see approach. This of course assumes that you have already exhausted all virus and spyware possibilities and checked the CPU and power supply fans as they have a habit of stopping and causing crashes due to overheating.
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