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Old 02-02-2008, 10:02 PM
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3 from last night - 47 Tuc, Blue spider, Horse

Hello all...
Posting a few from last night - clear in SA and no moon early on.
1. 47 Tucanae...ED80/Canon 40D on Skywatcher EQ5
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5x300sec, iso400, ICNR on.
2. Tarantula Nebula and surrounds... as above but 6x300sec, still can't shoo the blue hue
3. Flame and horsehead nebulae...12x300sec @ iso800

All images stacked in ImagesPlus 2.80 then faffed around with in PS!

Not too happy with this little bunch - they're a lot noisier than I had hoped for and needed too much processing for my liking.

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Old 02-02-2008, 10:06 PM
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The flame/horse shot is a ripper Doug. Also like the Tuc47.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:10 PM
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GORGEOUS!!!!
just curious..in the 47tuc pic, towards the edge of the pic at 3 o'clock and 10 o'clock what are those two objects??
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:23 PM
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that flaming horse is stunning ,wish a had them under my belt
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:30 PM
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Nice imaging Doug, you've captured three beautys.

Well done.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:41 PM
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Cant complain to much about them Doug, not bad i reckon, keep them coming mate.

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Old 02-02-2008, 10:46 PM
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Hi Doug, The images look pretty good to me. Noise is a problem even with OCNR on. Better results are achieved using darks in your processing without worrying about OCNR. Another handy program for noise reduction is Noiseware. They have a free version which is quite good but of course the purchased version is better.
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Cheers all,
madtuna - not too sure the names of the 2 DSOs also pictured in the 47 Tucanae pic...I'm sure someone will oblige though.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:50 PM
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NGC 2070 simply isn't cyan....

Tracking. Focus good.

Stick with it!
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Hi Doug, The images look pretty good to me. Noise is a problem even with OCNR on. Better results are achieved using darks in your processing without worrying about OCNR. Another handy program for noise reduction is Noiseware. They have a free version which is quite good but of course the purchased version is better.
Thanks Doug - some swear by ICNR, some prefer darks. I'm taking a series of darks right now so I'll see how I go.
Noiseware - I've d/loaded and installed the freebie, I like it. One pain the PS plugin doesn't process 16bit images, 8 bit only in the demo version.
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GORGEOUS!!!!
just curious..in the 47tuc pic, towards the edge of the pic at 3 o'clock and 10 o'clock what are those two objects??
NGC 152 AT 10 oclock, NGC121 at 3 oclock
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NGC 2070 simply isn't cyan....

Tracking. Focus good.

Stick with it!
I know Peter - I followed the Tarantula colour related thread with interest, but that's what the camera gives me, so that's what I've got to work with!

Regardless of the colour, I still can't seem to get an image I'm really happy with of this object - always ends up too noisy and "fizzy" looking. Don't know if it's the region, my technique, both!
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NGC 152 AT 10 oclock, NGC121 at 3 oclock
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thankyou, thankyou

googled them straight away - both globular clusters.
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thanks for that..my google finger is broken
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Don't take it to heart. I'm being totally non-PC and am calling a spade a spade

Actually I just tried getting get gamma levels in RGB right in your image...it was a bugger...and I gave up due insufficient data.

As +80% is being tossed by the camera, you probably need to go much deeper, split the RGB channels, stack the red ones, and use just one or two iterations of the G & B......just a thought...

Everything else looks good.


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Don't take it to heart. I'm being totally non-PC and am calling a spade a spade

Actually I just tried getting get gamma levels in RGB right in your image...it was a bugger...and I gave up due insufficient data.

As +80% is being tossed by the camera, you probably need to go much deeper, split the RGB channels, stack the red ones, and use just one or two iterations of the G & B......just a thought...

Everything else looks good.
I've probably stuffed around with the image so much it's a lost cause Peter!
Thanks for the tips re processing - lots to think about
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great images there doug, what you can do in photoshop once the stacked image is loaded, open up levels, in the levels box bottom middle button, select that then click on a background and bangg colour all balanced!
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Well tracked and focused images there Nice and deep too. Hope ya dont mind but I had a go at using Curves in PS on red channel only of the Tarantula shot. Curves alows red to be put in but without making too much of a red cast on everything else.
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thankyou, thankyou

googled them straight away - both globular clusters.
I too am quite impressed with the piccies, but something in 47Tuc struck me as odd... the two faint clusters are roughly the same distance from 47Tuc, whereas in reality NGC152 is about twice as far as NGC121, so perhaps it might be something else....

Recalling Terry B's post here:
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...690#post288690

I followed his recommendation, and tried Vizier... what you have there in your 47Tuc picture is indeed NGC121 on the right, but the one at upper left is more likely an exotic little glob known as Kron 3
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I too am quite impressed with the piccies, but something in 47Tuc struck me as odd... the two faint clusters are roughly the same distance from 47Tuc, whereas in reality NGC152 is about twice as far as NGC121, so perhaps it might be something else....

Recalling Terry B's post here:
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...690#post288690

I followed his recommendation, and tried Vizier... what you have there in your 47Tuc picture is indeed NGC121 on the right, but the one at upper left is more likely an exotic little glob known as Kron 3
I am sure that it is NGC152given mag as 12p mag, and Kron 3 is very small .
I have observed NGC152 on lots of occasions, but have not seen Kron 3.
Below is an entry in the ARGO NAVIS data base from andrew Murrell.
.KRON3*|00:24:48|-72:48:00|GLOBULAR|11.6|H0009;SMALL FAINT STAR CLUSTER NEAR 47 TUCANAE;MURRELL-ASNSW NOTES DID NOT RESOLVE IN 20inch;AKA ESO 28sc08;DISCOVERED IN 1956;IS 8 BILLION YEARS OLD;SIZE 2' ;KRON 7 IS 13' TO THE EAST
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