Chinese Broadband Sats to Add to Sky Pollution

[glend (Glen)]

China is launching a large number of Starlink type broadband satellites, I believe the number is 14,000! These are apparently much brighter than Elon's Starlink (At least he tried to make them dark). I do find it hard to believe that there are 14,000 orbital position left, with all the cap up there already. Here is a link to the articke:

https://spacenews.com/brightness-of-...s-astronomers/

[strongmanmike (Michael)]

Aaaah dooms dayers, she be right mate, that's what rejection software is for, no problem!

Like saying, dirty bathroom and toilet? a bit of splash, a few faint streaks of feces?...bah, paper towel will fix it , a quick rub down and maaaate, the room looks fine!

It's too late, just have to sit back and enjoy the slow degradation of our skies and LEO

Mike

[Leo.G (Leo)]

It's too late, just have to sit back and enjoy the slow degradation of our skies and LEO

I wish my degradation was slow (my government mail always comes in with my name in capitals, I believe that's because they own my soul or something or so I read somewhere) :Haha:
I know, Law Enforcement Officer, wait, that's the U.S.A., Low Earth Orbit



I went out last night to play photograph the moon and Venus, playing with a 2 times Nikkor tele-convertor and a fancy 1.5 times lens extender (old Olympus) both attached to an OLD 75-300mm Japanese Nikkor f4.5 lens.


I know, it's pure insanity, 900mm effective focal length ( I was just playing, nothing serious).
After I'd satisfied myself I really couldn't achieve focus even after unscrewing the 1.5 times front element a little to extend my focal capabilities and stopping down to f11 I removed the extras to image moon and Venus and was annoyed at the few images that either had a satellite or plane flying across the view.
I already see so many satellites going over.

Which programs easily remove satellites Mike?

I know what I've used in the past hasn't when I stack and have discarded numerous subs because of the unidentified flying thingies (Chinese or ours?, unidentified).
It's all right, I know spray and wipe does the streaks elsewhere, LOL

[RB (Andrew)]

Originally Posted by Leo.G

Which programs easily remove satellites Mike?

S.A.M. Programs.


RB

[FlashDrive (Poppy)]

Hmm ... really !! SAM Sites in Australia ... Defence must bought them after I left the RAAF ...didn't want me to play with all the little ' Red Buttons '
Poppy ....!!

[RB (Andrew)]

Originally Posted by FlashDrive

Hmm ... really !! SAM Sites in Australia ... Defence must bought them after I left the RAAF ...didn't want me to play with all the little ' Red Buttons '
Poppy ....!!

He was great. 😂

[Leo.G (Leo)]

I've often wished I could design and launch such a system without detection, believe me.
I probably could have designed it when younger but lack of money I'd have never have been able to build it.

[glend (Glen)]

I doubt SAM sites could bring down satellites, they have enough trouble even spotting something as big as an F35 in the atmosphere.
I am just so grateful that I have extensive libraries from my dark observatory, and frankly have already imaged most of what I wanted to over the last twenty years, and have It all archived. I would be pretty peeved if I was a young guy just starting out.
I think back to what James Dunlop would think of the situation we find ourselves in today.
His catalog of the dark skies of the Southern hemisphere formed the bible of Southern Celestial objects. Mr Dunlop worked from Parramatta NSW in the 1800s. If anyone has been to Parramatta recently, you would be hard pressed to see a single bright star in the sky glow generated by the high rise towers. A quick glance at the global light pollution map would suggest that Australia still has significant dark sky areas, but you need to get a long way away from population centres, LED street lights, etc to appreciate the dark.. Sadly fewer members here seem to make the journey, Star parties are dying out, informal dark site trips are no longer organised, and the ever stalwart members who made the treks regularly, are now getting to old to make the trips.
I can only encourage members here to get out there, before the Chinese can start putting these 14,000 objects, with the big shiny sails, between you and the stars.

[Leo.G (Leo)]

Personally while many say technology has brought is forward out of the dark ages that the same technology will be what puts us right back at the beginning.
Just take the internet for example, it WAS great, before everyone realised advertising and scamming was the only way to make your $$BILLIONS$$.

[RB (Andrew)]

Originally Posted by glend

I doubt SAM sites could bring down satellites, they have enough trouble even spotting something as big as an F35 in the atmosphere.

I agree Glen….
And that should prove to everyone that miracles do happen.

[MattB_77 (Matt)]

Sounds like eventually future launches will need to be equipped with deflector shields so the space junk bounces off! Any word on this tech being developed?