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Old 31-03-2018, 08:25 PM
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Tiangong-1 loosing altitude now

Looks like it's coming down soon, but maybe not yet, it's moving up and down by 20 kms over the span of a few minutes.

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Old 31-03-2018, 08:33 PM
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Just tried to observe the 20:02-20:06 pass from west outskirts of Canberra. Supposed to be mag 3.8. I couldn't see anything naked eye. Try again at 2130.

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Old 31-03-2018, 08:46 PM
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Looks like it's coming down soon, but maybe not yet, it's moving up and down by 20 kms over the span of a few minutes.
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What is your source?

Latest predictions on Satflare
http://www.satflare.com/track.asp?q=37820#TOP
is showing a range of predictions all around tomorrow night ±1 day (see attachment)

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Old 31-03-2018, 09:24 PM
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Old 31-03-2018, 09:34 PM
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I'm just keeping tabs on the Heavens Above site, nothing there on predictions just the height and location but I guess when that starts dropping low it will be close to re entry time. http://www.heavens-above.com/GroundTrack.aspx
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:07 AM
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Just tried to observe the 20:02-20:06 pass from west outskirts of Canberra. Supposed to be mag 3.8. I couldn't see anything naked eye. Try again at 2130.

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Likewise I saw nothing in the time around 8pm when it was predicted to pass near Melbourne. (Cloudy with some clear patches.)

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Old 01-04-2018, 06:42 AM
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The altitude has been around 180-190km for the past day and decaying very slowly. I think it needs to decay to around 150-160km before it really starts the rapid dive.


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Old 01-04-2018, 08:17 AM
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I guess the big question is how much notice will we get before re entry actually starts. I'm sure there are a few of us that would like to be outside looking up in case we are lucky enough to catch it burning up on one of the Aust passes.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:28 AM
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Rick,

Chances of getting the exact time of burn up is very unlikely due to the uncertainties in atmospheric density and dynamics.

Given that each pass is only 5-10 minutes, and only a few are visible each day, I'm covering as many as I can.

Even when I add in a 5 minute each way drive to a semi dark sky lookout on the edge of the city, each attempt is only taking 20 minutes. Given the near full Moon a fully dark sky is unnecessary.


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Old 01-04-2018, 09:41 PM
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Starting to drop rapidly now. I went outside just before as it passed over but couldn't see it. Not sure if it's naked eye visible - especially with the Moon helping to wash everything out?
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:54 PM
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I missed it too here in Newcastle couldnt see anything at all fine time to have a full moon
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Just crossed the northern Queensland coast and still losing altitude as it heads for the mid Pacific.
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:09 PM
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Is the up and down yo-yo-ing an effect of the atmosphere? Like a stone skipping on the water before it finally sinks into the pond?

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Old 01-04-2018, 11:12 PM
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my guess is north America or out in the ocean its starting to drop quite fast now
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Is the up and down yo-yo-ing an effect of the atmosphere? Like a stone skipping on the water before it finally sinks into the pond?

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More like an elliptical orbit I would think.
Our atmosphere only extends to 90Km in height, according to the attached diagram. The heavens above website says that re-entry will not occur until Tiangong reaches 100Km in height.

I just watched the last orbit cycle and its highest was 170Km midway between Cape Town and Perth, and its lowest was 153Km in the Nth Pacific at 20°N.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:22 AM
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Dropped 8km in the last 2 hours so this is probably it...keep watching. at 160km average now

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Old 02-04-2018, 02:12 AM
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Its last cycle peaked at 169.5Km just below Cape Town at 42°S at 0130, and its lowest was 152.5Km just to right of the Philippines at 7°N at 0205.

At this rate it could be another 48 hours before any fireworks happen.
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Old 02-04-2018, 03:36 AM
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My prediction of 48 hours is wrong as it dropped a lot that last pass. Peaked at 161Km and dipped at 144Km in height.
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Old 02-04-2018, 06:19 AM
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Edit: at 0800hrs....... 2 hours and 25 minutes to go till reentry..... Not enough time to fly to Chile to view it....

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Old 02-04-2018, 09:27 AM
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Seems to be losing 100m every 25 seconds now... not long. Pity, looks like it's just gonna make it past northern China. Nothing wrong with recycling eh :p

EDIT.. approaching the Western Chinese border, gaining 100m every 10 secs. How convenient...

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