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Old 23-09-2016, 01:33 PM
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LED Streetlights Are Giving Neighborhoods the Blues - IEEE Spectrum Magazine article

In a 22nd Sept article in the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers
(IEEE) Spectrum magazine, Jeff Hecht writes on how some early adopters
of LED street lighting are struggling with glare and light pollution.

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For some, those first LED lights have been a fiasco. The harsh glare of certain blue-rich designs is now thought to disrupt people’s sleep patterns and harm nocturnal animals. And these concerns have been heaped on the complaints of astronomers, who as far back as 2009 have criticized the new lights. That’s the year the International Dark-Sky Association, a coalition that opposes light pollution, started worrying that blue-rich LEDs could be “a disaster for dark skies and the environment,” says Chris Monrad, a director of IDA and a lighting consultant in Tucson.

When my city of Newton, Mass., announced plans to install LED streetlights in 2014, I was optimistic. I’m all for energy conservation, and I was happy with the LED bulbs in my home office. But months later, returning from a week’s vacation in rural Maine, I was shocked to find my neighborhood lit by a stark bluish blaze that washed out almost all of the stars in the night sky.

Lately, lighting companies have introduced LED streetlights with a warmer-hued output, and municipalities have begun to adopt them. Some communities, too, are using smart lighting controls to minimize light pollution. They are welcome changes, but they’re happening none too soon: An estimated 10 percent of all outdoor lighting [PDF] in the United States was switched over to an earlier generation of LEDs, which included those problematic blue-rich varieties, at a potential cost of billions of dollars.

The episode invites a few questions: How did an energy-saving technology that looked so promising wind up irritating so many people? Why has it taken so long for the impacts of blue-rich lighting to become widely known? And why did blue-rich LEDs so captivate municipal lighting engineers long before better options reached the market?
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Whatever their faults were, those blue-rich LED lights do save energy and money. My city of Newton, Mass., which has about 80,000 residents, expects to save US $3 million over 20 years after swapping its 8,406 sodium streetlights for 4,000-K LEDs, and avoid 1,240 metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions annually. Los Angeles anticipates saving $8 million a year after installing more than 150,000 LED streetlights, [PDF] while New York City hopes to recover $14 million a year by replacing the city’s 250,000 streetlights with LEDs.
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Our visual sensitivity shifts as light grows dim because rods and cones respond most strongly to waves of different lengths. The collective response of cones makes the human eye most sensitive in daytime to wavelengths of green-yellow light in the middle of the visible spectrum. Rods have a peak response to shorter blue-green wavelengths. Blue-sensitive cones, which are greatly outnumbered by other types of cones but are thought to play a role in sensing brightness at night, peak at wavelengths that produce indigo light.

The result is that at night the blue-rich light from an LED streetlamp looks brighter to the eye than the orangish light from a high-pressure sodium lamp—even if the two emit the same number of lumens, which are measured on a scale based on the eyes’ daytime response.

Given these facts, some experts touted bluer light for LEDs, noting that the relatively high color temperatures could enhance visibility at night. Some suggested that the use of bluish LEDs would let us see so much better at night that we could turn down the intensity of the lighting.

Yet Ron Gibbins, director of the Center for Infrastructure-based Safety Systems at the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute, says his experiments don’t support that idea. He has found that drivers’ eyes do not fully adapt to the dark, and thus would benefit little from the higher sensitivity of rods to blue light.

Other peer-reviewed studies have found that portions of the retina can adapt to different light levels at the same time. This suggests that rods focused on a road’s periphery may be better adapted to lower light levels, and therefore stand to benefit more from blue-rich lighting than those focused on the center line.
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http://spectrum.ieee.org/green-tech/...oods-the-blues
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We got all LED in Hoxton Park now. The new lights have focusing lenses that narrow the beam down and are countersunk in the casing of the lamp head. I wasn't too sure what to expect before they've installed them but since then I've noted a very significant drop in LP locally so I'd say it's better than the older system. The light is right across my bedroom window on the second floor and I hardly notice it now. The old bulb was much thicker and lighting up sideways the whole side of the house was lit.
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We got all LED in Hoxton Park now. The new lights have focusing lenses that narrow the beam down and are countersunk in the casing of the lamp head. I wasn't too sure what to expect before they've installed them but since then I've noted a very significant drop in LP locally so I'd say it's better than the older system. The light is right across my bedroom window on the second floor and I hardly notice it now. The old bulb was much thicker and lighting up sideways the whole side of the house was lit.
These LEDs have a lot of blue light in them, very bad for health/wildlife etc. Make sure no light is getting into your bedroom...
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These LEDs have a lot of blue light in them, very bad for health/wildlife etc. Make sure no light is getting into your bedroom...
I doubt it makes it through a brick wall.
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In a 22nd Sept article in the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers
(IEEE) Spectrum magazine, Jeff Hecht writes on how some early adopters
of LED street lighting are struggling with glare and light pollution.
This article states

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In June 2008, the DOE correctly noted that the most efficient white LEDs [PDF] of the time were those with a color temperature of 4,500 to 6,500 K.
this is roughly the same colour temp as the sun....(certainly not any more "Blue")

how is this bad for ones health?
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Old 24-09-2016, 11:43 AM
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this is roughly the same colour temp as the sun....(certainly not any more "Blue")

how is this bad for ones health?
No. Colour temperature in lighting represents the apparent look of say, a bar of iron when heated to the stated temperature. For example, heat an iron bar to between 2-3000° Kelvin and you get an orange glow (ironically called "warm white", 3-4500° K the bar gets whiter, and then 5000K upwards, the bar will get white hot (LEDs, TV and computer screens etc).

The reason there is worldwide movement to get governments and councils to rethink replacing their aging HPS lighting the 5000K LED lights is that such light contains a lot of blue.
Now blue light (like that in sunlight) is good for us in daylight but when it comes to night time, exposure to blue is known to disrupt our circadian rhythms, suppress melatonin production and confuse nesting and breeding wildlife (birds, turtles etc etc).
The rub is that exposure to blue light during the night has been linked to increase in depression, certain types of cancer and diabetes.

Here in Dunedin, the Dark Skies Dunedin group (N1 is involved along with RASNZ and other experts in the field) managed to persuade the council to stop the wholesale swapping of our old HPS with the LEDs and form a committee, reporting to the council, on the harm/benefits of different types of LED.

Have a look at http://www.flagstaffdarkskies.org/le...ng-dark-skies/ for more info on the pollution aspect of LEDs.

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this is roughly the same colour temp as the sun....(certainly not any more "Blue")

how is this bad for ones health?
Because it's at night. Take a photo of a white sheet of paper at noon. Do the same at dusk. It will be redder. We are adapted to associate falling and reddening light with night and sleep.
Bright bluish light is the absolute opposite of this.
I'm surprised that it's even legal to have these as car headlights, given how dazzling they are.
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