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Old 18-06-2016, 09:18 PM
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Has anyone tried Sharpcap polar alignment?

Hi All,

I've been doing a little searching and have only found limited information on this feature on V2.9. Even less information on how accurate the results are.

Alas, the clouds are over Sydney for the next few days so testing it myself is out of the question for now.

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Old 19-06-2016, 08:37 AM
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This sounds a lot like the way PoleMaster works, only it is using the guide camera/scope rather than a dedicated camera.
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Old 19-06-2016, 09:18 AM
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G'day Peter,

It looks like the Polemaster is the first reasonably priced plug and play offering on the market. As much as I was tempted to purchase one, it seemed odd to be adding yet another camera to my setup.
The idea of using software for PA is nothing new itself.

Having read up a little more it seems that the Sharpcap software should be able to give results around the 30" mark which would make it a very interesting proposition for anyone in my position.

So far I've managed to reach focus in my GSO/Bintel 8x50 finder by removing the back section and strapping on an ASI120mm. That seems to give the right FOV for the software. Now if I could only find the option for clear skies in the drop down menu's.

Another thing I've tried is to attach the camera to the polar scope on my AZEQ6. It would seem that it would require cutting back the end of the PS to get enough in focus.
Does anyone know what the focal length is on the Skywatcher polar scope?
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Old 19-06-2016, 09:20 PM
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Hi All,

I've been doing a little searching and have only found limited information on this feature on V2.9. Even less information on how accurate the results are.

Alas, the clouds are over Sydney for the next few days so testing it myself is out of the question for now.

Ross.
Apparently this is a beta version with a few bugs still so I've stuck to 2.8 which doesn't have polar alignment. How do you find it ?
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Old 20-06-2016, 04:43 AM
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Apparently this is a beta version with a few bugs still so I've stuck to 2.8 which doesn't have polar alignment. How do you find it ?
You're right Chris. The download is only available as a beta version and there's an expiry date of the 31 July 2016.
The software seems to work fine indoors. I guess I'll just have to wait for a break in the clouds before I can test it for real.

If you're worried about bugs in the beta version you can keep V2.8 installed.
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Old 20-06-2016, 06:52 AM
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Yes. I've used it and the others.
It's a (?) refined implementation of the PhotoPolar Align tool. My apologies to Themos if I have misrepresented the situation.

PhotoPolarAlign, SharpCap and Polemaster all use the same method to determine the center of rotation. You take a shot, rotate the mount, take another and then solve with simple geometry.
The PhotoPolarAlign tool uses plate solving either locally or using astrometry.net to work out where the pole is. SharpCap does the same but with it's own plate solving which is restricted to quite a narrow view.
Polemaster gets you to do the plate solving. ie. Click on Sigma Octans.

I like different aspects of each. Polemaster is self contained. Put the camera in the bracket, start the app, follow the instructions. When you're finished, put it away. That means I can use it in exactly the same way on my CGEM or a dumb mount like Super Polaris or Star Adventurer.

With SharpCap, you can align using your guidescope. If you have that setup on your scope and focused, it's just as quick to use as Polemaster. However, it expects a much narrower field (1.5 x 1 compared to 6 x 5 for Polemaster) in order to simplify the plate solving.

The narrower view means you need to be relatively closer to the pole when you start. That's easy in the North but not so much in this half of the planet. That's where PhotoPolarAlign helps because you can start with a lens on a DSLR, but at the cost of setup and solve time.

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Old 20-06-2016, 09:44 AM
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Thanks Steve. Just the information I was looking for.

I get your point about the Sharpcap PA having a narrow filed of view. That's going to be the real test.
Given that I'm setting up in the same spot most nights I figure it should be pretty easy to start within 5 degrees of the CSP. It seems setting the scope up at a new spot will prove to be a little harder so I'll definitely be keeping the polar scope intact for the rough alignment.

All in all, I still might head down the Polemaster route if I find this software makes a real improvement to my PA routine. There's nothing worse than wasting time setting up equipment when you could be enjoying it. And then the clouds roll in....
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Old 22-06-2016, 08:44 PM
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The software works well.

A quick update.

I managed to have a play with the software and my rig tonight. The polar scope on the mount was used for a rough alignment and the software easily picked up the rest.
What a great way to fine tune things. All I need now is a better set of adjustment controls on the mount!

Within 5 minutes I was able to get close to 30 secs each way.
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